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leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:13 PM Feb 2016

Iowans claim instances when Sanders was shorted delegates

Keane Schwarz is certain he knows the outcome of the vote in his precinct: He was the lone caucusgoer in Woodbury County No. 43.

But the Iowa Democratic Party's final results state that Hillary Clinton won one county delegate and Bernie Sanders received zero.

"I voted for Bernie," Schwarz, 36, of Oto, told The Des Moines Register. “It was really suspicious … I’m actually pretty irate about it.”

Several caucusgoers told the Register they thought Sanders had been shorted county delegates, including in Knoxville No. 3.
A total of 110 people were present for the final vote, and the count was 58 people for Sanders and 52 people for Clinton — which amounted to five county delegates for Sanders and four for Clinton, said Lonnie McCombs, a 59-year-old Knoxville Democrat who is retired from careers in the military and in manufacturing.

“That’s how it was recorded,” said McCombs, a Sanders backer.
But when the Knoxville Journal Express newspaper posted the Democratic Party’s official results, it showed Knoxville No. 3 results as Clinton with five county delegates and Sanders with four.

“It cost Bernie a (county) delegate,” said McCombs, who took to Facebook to report his concerns.

Steve Eck, who was Clinton’s precinct captain for Knoxville No. 3, confirmed: “Somebody transposed those numbers.”



http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/06/iowans-claim-instances-when-sanders-shorted-delegates/79902080/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=
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Iowans claim instances when Sanders was shorted delegates (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Feb 2016 OP
We are quite fortunate... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #1
Do we really need Katherine Harris's in the Democrative party? Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #10
Party processes should be honest and transparent. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #13
Evidently somebody does. frylock Feb 2016 #20
Blatant ELECTION FRAUD and it cannot be allowed to stand! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #2
His campaign has been communicating with them Jarqui Feb 2016 #4
Iowa is the new Florida and Andy McGuire is the new Harris Dragonfli Feb 2016 #3
Iowa = Florida, McGuire = Katherine Harris, HRH = G.W. Bush. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #8
Bernie Won Bernie Won Bernie Won...I'm sticking with this bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #5
That's probably why Bill had that concerned look on his face. Baitball Blogger Feb 2016 #11
yes, which also hopemountain Feb 2016 #12
^That's very interesting. Good description. nt zentrum Feb 2016 #15
Iowa Dem Party needs to clean this up NOW. It is only 4 short years until the next election. jillan Feb 2016 #6
Iowans have to know how much is at stake if they lose their first in the nation status. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #16
That article is damning. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #7
Yep Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #9
This one's a beauty, too. winter is coming Feb 2016 #21
Their shady behavior from the get go speaks for itself - I don't trust a word they CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #23
Nothing To See Here Now Go Away! Ignore That Man Behind The Curtain I Tell You!!!! scottie55 Feb 2016 #14
Hillary has people committing election fraud on her behalf? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #17
This needs to be investigated further and corrected. We can't go forward in good faith otherwise. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #18
Democrats engaging in election fraud. Unfuckingbelievable. frylock Feb 2016 #19
OMG! Call the cops!!!! world wide wally Feb 2016 #22
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. We are quite fortunate...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

That Hillary appointed such incompetent henchwomen like DWS and Andy McGuire to rig the nomination for her. They are blatently obvious.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
13. Party processes should be honest and transparent.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

When the party is controlled by people representing special interests, they know the will of the majority must be suppressed to remain in control, so they cheat, lie, and hide. Fortunately for the people, they are bad at it and call attention to themselves.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
2. Blatant ELECTION FRAUD and it cannot be allowed to stand!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

Why isn't anyone suing? It's hard to believe this is being ignored.

Does Bernie still have people from his campaign there?

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
8. Iowa = Florida, McGuire = Katherine Harris, HRH = G.W. Bush.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

She's taken several pages out of KKKRove's playbook. Playing dirty, hiring David Brock and stealing elections.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
11. That's probably why Bill had that concerned look on his face.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:20 PM
Feb 2016

It was close enough to warrant uncovering all the election shenanigans.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
12. yes, which also
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

explains why her speech was not matching her body movements or stance. she was completely out of body like people who are in fear. her fear is that there is discovery.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
6. Iowa Dem Party needs to clean this up NOW. It is only 4 short years until the next election.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:37 PM
Feb 2016

If they don't clean it up now everyone will be talking about this the closer we get to Iowa.

It's a stain on their credibility.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
16. Iowans have to know how much is at stake if they lose their first in the nation status.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:21 PM
Feb 2016

No more million and millions in advertising, hotel rooms, meals, and everything else that goes with all the candidates and media that invade their state every four years.

And the real kick in the rear... no more reason to support the ethanol subsidies.

Last time it was the Republican side this time it's the Democrats. Better fix this Iowa, it's really starting to stink and I don't think it's the hogs.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
21. This one's a beauty, too.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:09 AM
Feb 2016
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/05/iowa-margin-between-clinton-sanders-shifts-errors/79877898/

Skip down to the excerpt from Clinton's Iowa campaign director. He says:

Here’s the math.

Total Precincts in Contest: 11 (7 from Sanders and 4 from the Iowa Democratic Party)
Total State Delegates being Contested: 1.7947 (not enough to change outcome)

If every contest were to go in the favor of Sanders:
HRC = -.775
Sanders = +.758
MOM (Martin O'Malley) = +.0166


Sounds like spin to me. If Camp Weathervane is trying to minimize this by claiming that the margin could at most drop from 3.77 to 2.237, it's probably a lot worse than that.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
14. Nothing To See Here Now Go Away! Ignore That Man Behind The Curtain I Tell You!!!!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:17 PM
Feb 2016

The one with the Hillary License Plate..... Counting the votes.....

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. This needs to be investigated further and corrected. We can't go forward in good faith otherwise.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:59 PM
Feb 2016

I agree with Bernie that it's just a couple delegates either way, but if all these isolated instances add up to the win shifting to Bernie, Hillary will have stolen the bragging rights to the first win. The kind of people Clinton attracts are glad to fudge a number here and there for her, and it has to stop.

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