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shireen

(8,333 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:46 PM Feb 2016

can someone give me some background about these allegations

by the Clinton campaign?

I'm only asking because I haven't kept up with some of the going-ons in their campaigns. I just want to know what happened that caused them to make those claims.

I'm posting in the Bernie group, as a Bernie supporter requesting more information from other Bernie supporters. I don't want us to get into any arguments with Hillary supporters. Please.

From http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/07/hillary-clintons-campaign-seeks-to-portray-bernie-sanders-as-a-deceptive-candidate/

Clinton campaign’s communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, said, “It seems the Sanders campaign has shifted from insulting and dismissing people who don’t support him to falsely claiming their support. Despite being called on deceptive campaign tactics and misleading ads for weeks now, Sanders has now chosen to mislead voters on a veteran and veterans’ group’s support. Enough is enough — voters deserve better.”

The Clinton campaign pointed to fliers from the Sanders campaign that it said inappropriately used the images of veterans, ministers and senior groups to insinuate that Mr. Sanders had their endorsement, when he in fact did not. It also pointed to television ads in which it said Mr. Sanders misled New Hampshire voters by suggesting he had the endorsements of newspaper editorial boards that had not endorsed him.




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can someone give me some background about these allegations (Original Post) shireen Feb 2016 OP
Just another snow job, Mbrow Feb 2016 #1
I sort of love that this is the best they've got Mufaddal Feb 2016 #5
I'm awaiting the #bowdownbernie again jalan48 Feb 2016 #2
Goes to show RobertEarl Feb 2016 #3
OP just posted about some of the latest, it's 'stuff' in the words of Joe Biden. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #4
I'll admit I'm not the most informed on this. noamnety Feb 2016 #6
And Bernie explained this as "just using the quotes from the articles" and NONE of the fliers said in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #10
It's all garbage. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #7
I remember similar things in 2008 TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #8
Re veterans support sarge43 Feb 2016 #9
i still don't fully understand what's going on shireen Feb 2016 #11

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
1. Just another snow job,
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

They have been throwing Shit on the walls to see what will stick, nothing more, Don't even look in the HRC group, what a train wreck.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
5. I sort of love that this is the best they've got
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:54 PM
Feb 2016

So this is what happens when you run out of straws to grasp.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. Goes to show
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:50 PM
Feb 2016

They are reduced to nit picking. Can't attack on the issues, but have to earn their keep somehow, so nit picking it is.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
6. I'll admit I'm not the most informed on this.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

In the case of the newspapers, it looks like he/his campaign interpreted glowing editorials about him as "endorsements" when they had not formally endorsed a candidate. So, for example, this from the Valley News: ""A presidential candidate who vigorously espoused populism from a progressive point of view could help restore much-needed balance to American political life, which has tilted sharply to the right in recent decades," could read like an endorsement - but unless the paper says "we endorse XX" it's not the same thing.

http://www.politifact.com/new-hampshire/statements/2016/feb/04/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-ad-claims-endorsements-valley-news-/

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
10. And Bernie explained this as "just using the quotes from the articles" and NONE of the fliers said
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

the Veterans groups "endorsed" him...DIDN'T HAPPEN. Clinton is making shit up, as usual.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
7. It's all garbage.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

They're trying everything they can to take him down and nothing is working! His supporters know he's. HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY, HAS INTEGRITY AND IS the MOST ETHICAL POLITICIAN IN WASHINGTON D.C..

And Hillary is just the opposite.

They will throw whatever they can at him...hoping something sticks. It never will because he's CLEAN! Absolutely no scandals in his background. They can't take him down because he's AUTHENTIC

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
8. I remember similar things in 2008
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

At least this time we have a candidate who has a 50+ year record of standing up for people, whereas Obama was an empty canvas that a lot of people misunderstood. Most thought he was as liberal as the activists who took him to victory in the Iowa caucuses, but it turned out he was another Clinton-esque Democrat that sells out to the corporations. I would hope Bernie is not going to sell us out the moment he says the Oath of Office. His record is very, very strong.

Of course it is entirely possible Hillary will win and it's probably still very likely at this point. The entire Establishment has been behind her from the DNC to MSNBC to CNN to Senators and Governors, etc. They really, really don't want Bernie to win. I realize some of it is probably just political calculation that a socialist can't win a general election, but the American people support his agenda when you ask them the questions point blank.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
11. i still don't fully understand what's going on
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

and hope the Sanders team responds to each claim. If they did something wrong, own up and apologize. If not, dispute the allegation.

Dirty tricks are executed for a reason: they work on people who don't know the targeted candidate well enough to judge if it's BS or not. For that reason, I hope Bernie sets the record straight and moves on to address more important issues, like financial and social inequality!



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