Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumMy 24 year old daughter's comments about the Gloria Steinem BS:
"I find this very offensive! If I was running for president I think I would make it especially well known that I did not want anyone to vote for me just because I'm a woman. I would try to never talk about my gender as a trait that could help me. Although it would be a great social milestone to see a woman as president, it would be similarly as great to see a Hispanic in the White House, an Atheist, a homosexual, etc."
She has become a fine young progressive voter.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)One of mine just said "gross" re Steinem's remarks. She also said "obama's REAL legacy is Bernie Sanders."
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts).
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I sure would be.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)And at 65 years of age, I'm still a kid.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)We would have the first president that was not an illegal alien in charge, I suspect such a President would be too gracious and forgiving to ask all the foreigners with terrorists ancestors to leave (besides, that would leave very few left for the next election).
Sorry to be so blunt, but there are few true Americans out there and the hypocrisy of the squatters when talking immigration has always bothered me.
Lucky for me and most, the natives are very kind and welcoming to those that came here to seal everything from those that respected rather than presumed to "own" this land.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)But I would prefer he/she were a Dem.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Her mom took off with a fireman. (age 4)
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..for pointing out my automaticity. Don't want to have that.
She has a really great dad!
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Belong to an old brand of feminism whose ideal is a mirror world with its hierarchies and inequalities exactly as is, but with women in power.
Progressive feminism is about creating a different world where it does not matter if one is a male or a female, a world of true equality.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)That's one generation issue I'm happy for. And for that, I'm very proud of him.
Duval
(4,280 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)You must be very proud of her, panader0.
mike dub
(541 posts)Very intelligent thoughts from your daughter. The candidate in question, however, may never catch on...
uhnope
(6,419 posts)HRC or Steinem. Weird times!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)is that the world today is a very different place for a 24 year old woman than it was over a half century ago as it was for Ms. Steinem, who is 81.
It's a central problem to each generation. We grow up in the times we're in. Things change. It can be very, very hard for someone to understand what it is really like for a different generation.
I'm 67, and I never understood exactly why we were fighting in Vietnam, and I really didn't understand why the older generation didn't respect us for not wanting that war, for protesting, and so on. Then I started reading old Life Magazine. Sequentially, starting with the first issue in November, 1936. By the time I got to about 1943 or so, I really got it. WWII was a "good war" if any war can actually be good. We really were fighting the forces of terrible evil, and the outcome was going to shape the world for generations to come. So the people who'd gone through that as young adults, tended to see any war we were fighting as a good one, as the right fight to be having. My own opinion about Vietnam didn't change, but I stopped thinking the older generation was stupid.
The world Gloria Steinem grew up in and which influenced her thinking doesn't really exist any more. Which is not to say we've reached perfection. There's still a lot to be done, but I'd guess that any woman under the age of about 40 or so simply doesn't quite connect to Steinem's values or world view.
I like the younger generation. A lot.
Your daughter is smart and thinks things through.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)So if firsts are all you are looking for in a president then we still have one.
But I don't believe that young people are that shallow. I think they are smarter than what the PTB give them credit for, and your daughter is an example of that.
Young people see a future that looks pretty bleak for them is something is not done, And having a first is not doing something.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)meh, I can't see many making that kind of an appeal on how one votes for POTUS.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1594422/jewish/Do-Jews-Believe-in-Hell.htm
Cheering for Sandy Koufax, back in the day, might have been a different story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Koufax
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Watched him pitch many times and it never occurred to me to even wonder.
I suppose people more familiar with name origins would have known but not me.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)There was a sequel to the novel Marathon Man, called Brothers, and IIRC (very minor spoiler) an assassin tries to irritate his Jewish target at a basketball game by loudly wondering at the lack of Jewish athletes. Lol, he got his reaction, and a great lecture about some notable ones, Koufax included.
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)They are wrong about this. I am 66 yo and have never voted for a Republican for President. I am not going to vote for a woman just because she is a woman. Hell, that would mean Carly Fiorina is a reasonable choice.
I will certainly vote for Hillary Clinton because she is the Democratic candidate....not because she is a woman. That is not the point of feminism to me.
panader0
(25,816 posts)"Shrub" and "Bushwhacked" were excellent. I wonder what she would have to say these days.....
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Can't spell Bernie without RN!
olddots
(10,237 posts)thats a retoric guestion .
randr
(12,414 posts)have a different perspective of what it took to do so than those who come behind.