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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:49 AM Feb 2016

DWS explains to CNN how and why the DNC rigged the superdelegates to hold back Bernie.

“Unpledged delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman-Schultz explained.


From the horses mouth: The insider elite don't want to have to run against the outsiders. It's really that simple.

Video at the link.
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DWS explains to CNN how and why the DNC rigged the superdelegates to hold back Bernie. (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 OP
Yeah, can't have that "grassroots activist" shit happening in a "democracy," after all.... villager Feb 2016 #1
We need to call it what it is: Corruption. What is the difference between that and Gerrymandering? newthinking Feb 2016 #20
wtf!!!! seriously? retrowire Feb 2016 #2
They've never gone against the voters. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #3
I will be voting for the candidate selected by the people of the democratic party. Salviati Feb 2016 #6
i know they've never come against us before retrowire Feb 2016 #7
We'll know in just a few months. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #10
I heart you! delrem Feb 2016 #14
DING DING DING! Cassiopeia, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Feb 2016 #8
Obama was never the risk Bernie is. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #9
Primary Colors. dchill Feb 2016 #4
Yes, it truly is this simple Fairgo Feb 2016 #5
Sounds like a good quote for a campaign button for Tim Canova! cascadiance Feb 2016 #13
This is an attempt to demoralize activists AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #11
Serious question: If she's here, who's running Hell? Mufaddal Feb 2016 #12
Ha! Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #15
They're terrified of Liberals because they can't be bought. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #16
Demoralizing party activists is standard method of operation for Headquarters. democrank Feb 2016 #17
DWS really needs to go and go now...to hell would be the best place for her to go emsimon33 Feb 2016 #18
2008 all over again. Only this time the upstart is an independent Jew from VT Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #19
the more you squeeze jello, the faster it slips through your fingers, Deb. bbgrunt Feb 2016 #21
Superdelegates Explained 4bucksagallon Feb 2016 #22
^ Wilms Feb 2016 #23
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. Yeah, can't have that "grassroots activist" shit happening in a "democracy," after all....
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:50 AM
Feb 2016

What would our owners think!?

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
20. We need to call it what it is: Corruption. What is the difference between that and Gerrymandering?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:08 AM
Feb 2016

They are both forms of rigging.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
3. They've never gone against the voters.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:55 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie might be different though. They might just burn it to the ground than risk the change Bernie is fighting for.

It's our job to win with overwhelming support. That can happen if we continue to fight.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
6. I will be voting for the candidate selected by the people of the democratic party.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

I hope it's the same one that the party decides to nominate.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
10. We'll know in just a few months.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:16 AM
Feb 2016

If Bernie gets out of March and starts April with broad support and a good lead we should start to see those super delegates announcing they are switching their vote in order to hasten the end of the primary and prevent further damage from what will be an endless onslaught of lies from the Clinton cabal.

All we can do is continue what we have been doing. Getting the vote out for Bernie. If we have a lead in polls of 20% we need to make sure people fight for 25% instead of getting lax and not attending their caucuses and elections.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
8. DING DING DING! Cassiopeia, you're our grand prize winner!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:06 AM
Feb 2016
It's our job to win with overwhelming support. That can happen if we continue to fight.

I'll be happy to support Hillary if she wins a fair fight -- I said that in 2008, and I say it today.

The main reason why Hillary couldn't "take it to the convention" in '08 was because her final numbers weren't anywhere near Obama's, and the main reason why her superdelegates bailed was because most of them had their own jobs to hold onto. That's why we're seeing all these intimidation and demoralization tactics.

Bernie -- a "grassroots activist"? A fine way to describe someone who's been in Congress since 1990!


rocktivity

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
9. Obama was never the risk Bernie is.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:13 AM
Feb 2016

He's proposing real change and has the record to prove he'll actually fight for it.

Those super delegates not only think about their current jobs, but their future as CEOs, lobbyists, and possible speaking gigs. Bernie could put those futures or at least a portion of the vast profits they bring at risk as well.

Like I said, there is a very real possibility they will make the exception this cycle and burn down the party to save those futures.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
5. Yes, it truly is this simple
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:01 AM
Feb 2016

Unfortunately, when it becomes obvious that it over rides democracy, people notice.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
13. Sounds like a good quote for a campaign button for Tim Canova!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:54 AM
Feb 2016

Get her OUT of office down in Florida!

She just confirmed that she hates democracy! That just confirms that she's unfit for party leadership or being a party representative in congress!

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
11. This is an attempt to demoralize activists
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:18 AM
Feb 2016

Don't take the bait. Bernie's movement can get big enough that they will have no choice but to back Bernie.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
12. Serious question: If she's here, who's running Hell?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:31 AM
Feb 2016

Thatcher, maybe? I've been trying to figure it out for months and still haven't got it.

EDIT: Thanks for this, btw; I've now added it as my sig.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
15. Ha!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:42 AM
Feb 2016

I remember when that happened, in the 1980s ("super-delegates&quot . I felt SO demoralized and disenfranchised!

Great sig line!

democrank

(11,096 posts)
17. Demoralizing party activists is standard method of operation for Headquarters.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:54 AM
Feb 2016

They see it as a threat to the way things are supposed to be.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
19. 2008 all over again. Only this time the upstart is an independent Jew from VT
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:55 AM
Feb 2016

Not an idealistic black man from IL.

Same party elites tried to keep Obama down. Remember the PUMA people?

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
22. Superdelegates Explained
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:01 AM
Feb 2016

You can't lay this at her feet and no I am not defending her.
Superdelegates came about in 1982 long before DWS was in charge. Blame Jim Hunt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hunt
Hunt Commission

In 1981 Hunt chaired the Hunt Commission, named after himself, which established superdelegates in the Democratic National Convention.[3]
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