Bernie Sanders

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts) Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:14 PM Feb 2016

expect fear mongering over scalia death

this gives a new talking point for hillary. we cant lose the court, only i can beat the repubs, etc etc.

of course, we know bernie is more electable, but we will hear r v w fear mongering, gay rights, etc etc etc to scare people into choosing her.

which of course, will be a disastrous choice

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expect fear mongering over scalia death (Original Post) restorefreedom Feb 2016 OP

There's been so much fear mongering - LiberalElite Feb 2016 #1

My first thought upon hearing of Scalia's death was "hallelujah." stranger81 Feb 2016 #3

yes with the plethora of unity threads restorefreedom Feb 2016 #6

I see it already and from where I sit, this changes nothing. We figured we'd be replacing justices. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #2

true, he can point to the head to head match ups. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #7

He has the better chance of wining the GE by any metric I have seen. /nt Dragonfli Feb 2016 #11

the faction that gave us Clarence Thomas is used to fingerwagging and blaming the voters MisterP Feb 2016 #4

try not to sugar coat it, misterP restorefreedom Feb 2016 #8

This is the time to push Brock and his involvement with Thomas artislife Feb 2016 #15

Particularly David Brock, who slimed Alita Hill jfern Feb 2016 #23

Scalia's death makes it imperative that we nominate Bernie since Hillary can't win. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #5

absolutely true. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #9

^ This. AzDar Feb 2016 #13

exactly! fbc Feb 2016 #22

Already happening and being used as a way to shut down my OP Dragonfli Feb 2016 #10

you nailed it. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #12

It goes both ways. Senator Tankerbell Feb 2016 #14

It is all about the Senate and who has bigger coattails n2doc Feb 2016 #16

I'm sorry to be evil, but this song popped into my head when I read the news. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #17

That is what the HP managers marched around the cube farm singing HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #20

Big Time, K&R Mbrow Feb 2016 #18

she's got nothing olddots Feb 2016 #19

Bernie makes it more likely the Senate will confirm Obama's pick imo. fbc Feb 2016 #21

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)

1. There's been so much fear mongering -

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:16 PM

Feb 2016

we're overflowing with it.

stranger81

(2,345 posts)

3. My first thought upon hearing of Scalia's death was "hallelujah."

Reply to LiberalElite (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:19 PM

Feb 2016

My second thought was this. They're going to pull out all the stops on this one. It's already started in GDP.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

6. yes with the plethora of unity threads

Reply to stranger81 (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:21 PM

Feb 2016

i am all for unity, but this will be exploited to try and save her sinking campaign. and i have to admit, i am not unconcerned.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)

2. I see it already and from where I sit, this changes nothing. We figured we'd be replacing justices.

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:17 PM

Feb 2016

I still think Hillary guarantees a republican in the White house. I'm still pushing for Bernie as hard as before.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

7. true, he can point to the head to head match ups.

Reply to Ed Suspicious (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:22 PM

Feb 2016

he is the nom we need, plain and simple.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)

11. He has the better chance of wining the GE by any metric I have seen. /nt

Reply to Ed Suspicious (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:26 PM

Feb 2016

MisterP

(23,730 posts)

4. the faction that gave us Clarence Thomas is used to fingerwagging and blaming the voters

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:19 PM

Feb 2016

fuck 'em

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

8. try not to sugar coat it, misterP

Reply to MisterP (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:23 PM

Feb 2016

artislife

(9,497 posts)

15. This is the time to push Brock and his involvement with Thomas

Reply to MisterP (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:34 PM

Feb 2016

Anita Hill was destroyed by him.

Brock confesses in a Talk magazine excerpt of his new book, Blinded by the Right, that he had printed "virtually every derogatory and often contradictory allegation" he could to make Hill seem "a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty." If that was all Brock did, we might have nothing more than another sin committed on behalf of the vast right-wing conspiracy. But Brock, who has forged a second career as a recovering conservative, makes one admission that implicates Thomas. Brock says he used information that came indirectly from Thomas to force a retraction from a woman named Kaye Savage, who had come forward in support of Hill. Brock threatened to publicize vicious charges made by her ex-husband in a sealed child-custody dispute.

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,167355,00.html

Who is to say he hasn't lapsed back to set point, which is conservative smear master?

jfern

(5,204 posts)

23. Particularly David Brock, who slimed Alita Hill

Reply to MisterP (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:36 AM

Feb 2016

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)

5. Scalia's death makes it imperative that we nominate Bernie since Hillary can't win.

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:20 PM

Feb 2016

No youth, independents don't support her, and she's turned off more than a few progressives during this primary.

She just doesn't deserve to win the nomination based on her campaign. It's her fault really.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

9. absolutely true. nt

Reply to stillwaiting (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:24 PM

Feb 2016

AzDar

(14,023 posts)

13. ^ This.

Reply to stillwaiting (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:28 PM

Feb 2016

fbc

(1,668 posts)

22. exactly!

Reply to stillwaiting (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 04:13 AM

Feb 2016

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)

10. Already happening and being used as a way to shut down my OP

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:24 PM

Feb 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511225024

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

12. you nailed it. nt

Reply to Dragonfli (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:27 PM

Feb 2016

Senator Tankerbell

(316 posts)

14. It goes both ways.

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:30 PM

Feb 2016

The conventional wisdom seems to be that Hillary is more electable but there is more evidence to support the theory that Sanders is more electable if you look at general election match-up polls. Hillary Clinton is viewed negatively by many independents. Sanders is more likely to increase turnout among people who usually view both parties as full of shit. Bernie is viewed as honest. Nominating Hillary will demoralize the left-wing of the party. Yes, they will still vote for her but will they donate and volunteer for her? I'm not sure.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)

16. It is all about the Senate and who has bigger coattails

Reply to restorefreedom (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:35 PM

Feb 2016

Bernie, with huge crowds and lots of independent voters? Or HRC, who seems to feel that she has to win by negative campaigning and fear mongering? I think logically hope beats fear every time. Did in 2008.

Neither candidate is getting an acceptable Judge through a GOP controlled Senate.