Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumI'm really bothered -
by this NV result. I keep logging off and then logging back on. It's way past my bedtime and this accomplishes NOTHING - except the more I read comments from Her side, the more bitter and angry at them I get. It might not go away either.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)I have to live long enough to vote for Bernie, at least in the primary.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)That's kind of a comfort. But then I'm reading about Buddhism and then I think Oh Shit! I'll be back here? (re: reincarnation).
I'm not reading them anymore - I got help in bookmarking this group so I don't see their crap 1st thing.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)I understand completely, I feel similarly. But that's what they want, disillusionment and for that, they need your permission.
Do not lose heart, my friend. It ain't over. Not even close.
Sleep and wake up refreshed.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Somehow - and I don't know how - we have got to get a message to his campaign about how fed up we are with what is going on and the lies that are being flung at us.
We need to band together on this. We are a movement.
I have been a political junkie since the 70s and I have never been more disgusted, more angry than I am today.
I cannot believe what transpired. This cannot stand. Between this and the Jonathan Capehart crap.
Anyone have any ideas how to get our message to the campaign? They need to hear from their supporters.
I bet anything they have no idea what is going on.
Yuugal
(2,281 posts)Or so I've been told. If Bernie can say he got a huge chunk of money the 24 hrs after NV that will help. So far this campaign, every shitty Hillary move has been met with a wall of Bernie cash. The "Can you hear us now" effect works.
I know what Bernie would tell me anyway if I complained about some Rovian trick or other. He'd tell me to give him more money and spread the message. Forget the tricks. Debunk them and show the scum for what they are, but don't obsess; rather, quickly pivot to what Bernie and a fundamental change in US politics could do for regular people and their kids.
Hillary is playing patty-cake compared to what is in store when Bernie wins the nom.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)i think if Bernie hadn't seemed so certain we'd win it wouldn't have hit me so hard. At the timie I thought" Really? Maybe he shouldn't talk like that."
olddots
(10,237 posts)I feel about this primary ,it feels like 1968 again .
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Very bad reputation, very bad source.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Who is he.?
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)He is the one who made the "investigative" film that took down ACORN.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Thanks
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
senz
(11,945 posts)Another reason she would not make a good president.
onecaliberal
(32,882 posts)Yuugal
(2,281 posts)would be where he is now last august I'd have laughed. I expected a principled debate from him on the issues and then obscurity. 4 million donations(100m or so) and counting and he is doing fine. I don't plan on just going away and letting the party be forever corporate controlled. I'm in this for the long haul.
Rather than worry about 5 pts in NV, I'm counting my blessings. One half of the Clinton/Bush oligarchy is crying in their beer tonight. That is good news. Our dollars are scaring the living shit out of the party hacks. That is also good news.
People love an underdog and if Bernie had squeaked out a 1 pt win they would have called him the front-runner going into SC which he will do 40% maybe? That might have killed him. Let them play the "between SC and Super Tues Bernie will be done for" card all they want. He just has to follow Obama's strategy. Keep going, keep talking about the vision, keep fighting the good fight. His message has traction and when we get to the deep blue states Hillary is gonna take a beating if we just don't give up.
I'll admit I also had a momentary sad today but it was only when Bernie people kept clogging up Actblue with their donations and it made mine take a long time to process.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)It is bigger and better than I thought possible.
He keeps gaining support and there is still a path to victory.
And it gets even better - Many win on there second try - If she wins and gets nothing done (very likely) Sanders takes her second term.
The future looks much better.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)I had a very vivid dream last night that I woke up to headlines reading "SANDERS WINS NEVADA - CLINTON WITHDRAWS FROM RACE". Then I woke up for real and saw the bad (though not terrible) news. My subconscious is trolling me. Bastard.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)happened to me many years ago - I dreamed I passed Algebra. Then I woke up. I later learned I flunked it. Spectacularly.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)I refuse to listen to or watch any MSM or read any Hill posts. I was upset earlier. My brother is upset.
I think most Bernie people are upset. But I'm up late waiting for a raccoon to leave from under
my house. Flour has been laid but no tracks. Maybe he left earlier? Sigh...
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)if only he hadn't sounded so confident it wouldn't have hit so hard. Oh well...
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Absolutely red-faced ENRAGED by her.
jillan
(39,451 posts)make it I won't have to vote for her.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I have to step away. She's not worth me raising my blood pressure.
I'm having trouble finding any redeeming qualities in her.
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Now she disgusts me.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)stuff - most of it is intended to get to you and piss you off or offend you in some way. why waste your energy on it?
step away, go for a walk or whatever gives you peace. i stayed off all day and came here to get the straight scoop tonight.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)super Tuesday. I will check in on the results occasionally but I'm kind of glad that I won't be on the computer those days. I'm leaving the phone in the condo too.
The stress of this gets to me!!
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)why would you let it?
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)would have to be predicated on a behavioural change and coming clean for past behaviour...
that shit ain't happening...
and forget? Forgetting would be suicidal in this case..
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)a state Dem party that didn't even have translators at precincts where there were lots of Spanish speakers. A caucus process that did not allow many union people to stay long enough to be counted because they had to get back to work within 1.5 hours.
There's a lot of stuff wrong here. It smells like a fucking Limburger Cheese.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)knocking myself for being angry. It's fucking normal to be angry at this. (woops calm down....)
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Things weren't going so well for our side against the Tories, to put it mildly. But, the patriots stuck it out. Their faith and persistence paid off.
We, on Bernie's side, are going to take a big hit on Super Tuesday. The deck is stacked for the more conservative candidate. Funny how the powers that be set that up! Anyway, that's when things will look the bleakest. That's when we'll be tempted to accept defeat. But, if we can come out of that still fighting, the tables will start to turn. Then we start hitting blue state primaries where Hillary's liabilities come into play big time.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Thanks!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)There WILL be cheating and shenanigans. At least with the caucus states, we get a change to SEE it, and to complain about it, maybe even get a bit of it fixed.
When we get to primaries, we can be suspicious of voting totals, but how are we going to actually PROVE most of the cheating?
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)we use scanners so there is a paper trail.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)we wouldn't be having this problem. Basically that's the bottom line.
I just watched a well attended rally in South Carolina how many of those
people are going to show for Bernie? I wonder if he feels he's failing
in some respects because the masses aren't doing their part? He can't seem
to get through to them how important these issues are. They whoop and
holler at the rallys and then are no shows when it's time to stand up for Bernie.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)only in Nevada?