Trump has large negatives (even larger than Clinton's).

Who did NOT take their ball home in November..I hope sander supporters can be mature in the end

70% of South Carolina voters today trust Hillary. 65% of the country does not trust her. Good thing for her is that Trump is not trusted either.

Usually it's the fear-mongering "But the Republican will win" we hear while being offered nose-clips and anti-gag medication. Writing Bernie in, have a nice day.

They will vote for who the DNC and the Party tells them to.

Ass kissers always kiss the ass that wins. That's what they do.

I've asked if you would vote for Sanders in the GE and I never get a response. What's up with that?

I'm quite mature.

I will vote for a candidate who is not corrupt in the Fall. That will either be Bernie or Jill Stein.

Interesting

Just so everyone knows, however, I had told my husband back about a year ago that I would not vote for HRC if she was the nominee and this was before Bernie got in the race. My decision isn't sour grapes. I simply don't trust her and think there is little different between her and a moderate-right Republican.

My regards to H.P.
Might be time for me to pick up another of his books after many years of neglect.
Any suggestions?

and I've been a loyal member for over 30 years.

Oh, and it's not her supporters. They can be smug and elitist at times but I don't hold anything against them except the lies they've spread. The lie didn't start on DU so I understand and it's all good. My problem is with the party itself.

Until this election I didn't feel that my party was really Republican. Sure some of them leaned conservative but for the most part they worked on a reality basis and didn't spread smears and lies like the right wingers do. I was wrong. This party is no better than the other. At least the ones rallying around Clinton and all the red-baiting, race-baiting, and Jew baiting that's been gong on. All the lies and attempts to take Sanders history from him. That coupled with Clinton's blatant corruption and incompetence and I'm done with the Democrats.

If Sanders doesn't win then I wish them luck. But either way they're not taking my vote for granted anymore. I'll vote my principles from now on. If I'm going to get nothing anyway I'll at least have that.

Been Independent from Day One. (Too far left to be a Democrat) You'll like it here.

Destruction of financial markets..they HAD to vote their principles tool....they had more responsible for what happened than those who voted for bush...

Just proves how well propaganda works.

By the way, Hanging Chad and Katherine Harris say hello.

You gonna blame me for Bubba?

that giant sucking sound that we would hear if NAFTA got approved.

Perot was right. I have never regretted that vote, in fact about a year ago I was at a garage sale and they had a Perot for President campaign button. I bought it and it's with all my other campaign buttons.

Maybe he should've win instead of Clinton and we wouldn't be in this mess we're in today.

much of a role.

Had Gore won his own home state, Florida wouldn't have mattered.

BTW, more Democrats in Florida voted for Bush than Nader.

I went to sleep (my son was a toddler back then) with Gore as president and woke to a shit storm.

I won't do that again.

Destruction of the financial markets? Who signed NAFTA? Who signed the bill that ended Glass-Steagall? Who snuck the Commodities Futures Act into the Reconciliation Bill at the end of 2000 that had to be passed in order to keep the government going?

Bill Clinton --- and Gensler -- both advisers (and Bill, husband) of Hillary Clinton.

If you want to blame someone for the deaths and the debt and the destruction of financial markets, include Bill Clinton and Gensler in the people you blame.

Let's be honest here. It was not Nader's fault that Hillary and so many Democrats voted for the Iraq War Resolution. It was not Nader's fault that so many Democrats voted for and supported repeal of the Glass-Stegall Act or enactment of the Commodities Futures Act.

Blame on George W. Bush what is his fault. There is plenty to blame him for. But while you are at it, please be honest about the supporting and sometimes decisive roles that Democrats like Hillary and Bill Clinton and Gensler played in it.

to vote for and it won't be for more of the same. Enjoy president TRUMP.

PEACE
LIVE
BERNIE

This primary has turned me off from the Democratic Party at this point. Independent is really the only way to go at this point. But keep your progressive side intact. Don't let that die.

No worries there.

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that if Hill is the nominee then Trump wins. He's concerned, but I say
they are both Republicans so doesn't matter and we live in Cali. According to the L.A. Times the
Republican Party is dying here. Democratic Party is just barely hanging on. The growing party?
Or non-party in this state? The "declined to state group" of which I am one.

I've been saying that for a while. Both parties are beholden to one group. Corporate America, with the financial industry leading. They won't do anything unless approved by that group.

I've lived under numerous Republican presidents and served in the Navy under one as well. And anyone that thinks we'll never have another is nuts. Either way, if it's Clinton/Trump Hillary is in trouble.

we need to follow his lead!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

I'd decided this a couple of weeks ago when the lies started. After the swift boating with his photo it was over for me.

This really has nothing to do with tonight's loss. It was bad but I've been around enough to know you'll have some loses. This is more a personal decision and not wanting to associate with that party anymore. It's insane, immoral, and corrupt to the core. If they're propping up someone like Clinton while trying to destroy someone like Sanders then the party is over and not worth the trouble. They don't do shit anyway so it's no loss.

I say let them go and we build viable independent party infrastructure over the next decade. Use that to take the fight to both parties. Any money Bernie has left after this election should be used for that purpose. A viable third party is probably our only hope if he doesn't win it all this year.

statement is crazy. But I hear things others see.

She is not a compassionate person.

Not like Obama. That's for sure.

She will drive the voters to Trump. And he is a crook.

God help America if Hillary is our nominee.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

If we had voted today instead of South Carolina, Bernie would be way, way, way ahead.

We have not begun to really talk to voters about Bernie here in California.

Washington State doesn't vote until March 26.

Oregon on May 17.

California with our many, many delegates June 7.

We will be a gamechanger.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

There is nothing in her eyes, no emotion whatsoever unless she is being questioned.
When she speaks, her words do not match her expression.

Have you noticed that?

And they went after Bernie for using too much emotion when he speaks by speaking with his hands. Ha. Obviously Bernie draws people in when he speaks. Look at his crowds ffs.

from their souls if and when their hands corroborate what they are saying.

Bernie moves his hands a lot because every cell in his body believes and repeats with him what he says. That may be also why he is as healthy as he is.

He is not one who splits this part of his thought from the rest of his thought for the most part.

Hillary on the other hand is not such an integrated personality in my opinion. That is why she changes her mind so much on moral issues like gay marriage and criminal law and the environment and Wall Street regulation. There is a hidden part of her personality in my opinion. She fights not to reveal certain thoughts. That is my take on her.

She tries to think strategically and to be smarter than other people. Bernie on the other hand has thought things through by adopting certain basic values and principles, and then analyzing problems that arise by applying those values and principles methodically for each problem. Bernie has values and principles and questions whether his moral and other decisions comply with those values and principles. I don't think Hillary thinks like that.

I have read that Bernie did a lot of debating with his friends when he was young. His systematic analysis may have been reinforced by that. His rational methodology (or at least what I perceive to be his rational methodology) may have been learned in early childhood from his parents and religious teachers. I don't know about that but it is possible. That is something that would be interesting to ask him. It may just be natural to him.

Of course, I don't know him personally so I could be wrong. But I think I am right about this. I doubt that he is at all conscious of the method he applies as he thinks things through.

But he means what he says when he gives his speeches. There is no or not much of a part of him that is detached from what he says. That is my impression. There is a unity in thought and speech.

Actors and musicians work hard to achieve that kind of unity. I suspect that is what the so-called Method that actors used was about. But with Sanders it isn't a learned acting method. It's really who he is.

if there is a GOP establishment revolt and they somehow get Mitt Romney the nomination. He got 47% of the popular vote in 2012... And Obama was far and away a stronger candidate than HRC is now.

but Clinton will be toast in the GE. If she thought her server private server didn't matter then the GOP will certainly do everything they can to make it matter. I'm surprised that so many people voted for 'damaged goods'

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Yes!!! What a team!