And he seems to be making a slow climb at the moment.

Nonetheless I wish he had spent more time talking in the red states.

and speaking. it was on cspan. of course, not one passing mention in the msm. just hillarites proclaiming her presence and exclaiming their falsehoods about bernie not being there - while he was.

It ain't over till it's over.

The Clintons have a lifetime pass from a large chunk of the Democratic Party. If you attempt to point out Bernie's history of consistency and the Clintons' history of triangulation, you're accused of "Bernie-splaining." We live in a celebrity culture and this favors the Clintons in a big way.

I read an interview with him from before his entry into the race. He took note of Nader's experience in 2000 and the institutional factors that militate against a third-party campaign on a national scale. He realized that, if he ran in any capacity other than as a Democrat, he would have no chance of winning and would merely split the vote, to the advantage of the Republicans. His indecision at that time was whether to seek the Democratic nomination or to not run at all.

You write, "I keep wondering what running as an Independent might have meant." It would have meant that he would pull off a few million votes, most of which would otherwise have gone to the Democratic nominee. He would not have carried a single state, but might have flipped one or more -- and even, conceivably, the whole election -- to the Republican.

If you think otherwise, then explain to me why the scores of millions of votes that would be there to elect him on a third-party ticket in November are not also there to get him the Democratic nomination. A few of them would be unavailable in the nomination struggle because they're not registered Democrats. In most states with closed primaries, though, a voter can change his or her registration, either at the polls or by 30 days in advance. (I think New York is the only state with a more stringent requirement. Last fall, as the deadline approached, Sanders volunteers were getting the work out about this, and getting independents and Green Party members and whatnot to reregister as Democrats.)

I expected Sanders to perform at Kucinich levels -- low single digits.

The stark contrast between the results of these two progressive campaigns suggests that the mood of the voters, or at least those in the Democratic Party, is now markedly more disenchanted with the status quo than it was when Kucinich ran in 2004 and 2008. Trump's success suggests that the same is true in the Republican Party.

who said they were hearing 4 Clinton radio spots for 1 of Sanders. And that radio is big in SC.

to do more of that?

His rallies are impressive, as we know but maybe he is not getting enough of that one on one?
When you get into those tight communities, if you can convince Aunt Sally to vote for you - she might convince her kids, and her neighbors.
This could be part of Bernie's problem?

Large rallies are working for trump, but my feeling is that Sanders would do well to mix it up.

Sanders' campagin owes its growth to the internet for the most part...thank goodness for that because media has done him huge disservice, but still there are many thousands of people who can't afford devices, can't afford the cost of service to access the information world or are simply not wired due to lack of infrastructure..

Hill knows this, many politicians do and I'm sure Sanders' campaign is well aware. Problem is, he doesnt have 25 years to do thenold school politickin necessary to reach these people.

This is where old school politickin comes into play. Don't believe me, go google up some info on internet accessibility, number of households with access and households with the proper equipment TO access the Internet.

Start with googe searches US Census questionaires, internet access and availability, the demographics of who has it and who doesn't, education and income levels, south and west and see what I mean.

It IS the south things are slower here, conservative, deeply religious and building relationships take lots of time ....I get that. One of my first impressions of NC and especially the deeper SC and other red, red states, is that things are just slower here in many, many aspects, in great and horribly dreadful ways.


Anyhow, just a few little personal observations I thought I'd share, for what it's worth.

http://scdp.org/despite-plenty-of-broadband-internet-access-in-s-c-is-third-lowest-in-u-s-access-doesnt-mean-people-can-afford-service/
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/internet-usage-by-state.html
http://statescoop.com/broadband-access-to-internet-lags-in-southern-states/
https://cew.georgetown.edu/report/a-decade-behind/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/2013comp-internet.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjN-djswZnLAhVHQSYKHR8JB48QFggoMAE&usg=AFQjCNEpNQ-pRcX_cnYaxb0MVzG7yBb1XQ&sig2=-bMsA6frcdlKf5qV6Dqr7A(google link to .pdf file)

will be a shambles of playground politics for 4 years. there is no way the republicans will let her win and they will take her down with indictments, etc..

Personally I think she has a lot of nerve to run while she is under investigation by the FBI - and she's so smug about it.

entitled - or so she thinks. denial of the realities is her weapon.

For all their shrieks of "It was classified later!" some of that stuff was talking about classified documents. Conversations about classified information are *also* classified. It wasn't classified until later is a copout. It wasn't classified because it was about stuff that was classified, and they couldn't classify it directly because they didn't know about it yet.

Basically if some rank and file dope had pulled what Hillary did, they'd spend the next two or three presidencies in prison rather than the White House.

anywhere, either.

that the Clinton Machine does.

So in a long-term war, you choose your battles carefully.

He did a lot in both of those states. The media wants you to believe otherwise as it fits their narratives.

But no Sanders can't run as many radio ads as Clinton did. Sanders can not trot out all of the 'right' establishment leaders to castigate the youth and sway the generally conservative SC black democratic voters. Sanders had the kitchen sink thrown at him and his campaign by the Clinton Machine and David Brock in the week run up to both the Nevada and the South Carolina primaries.

He may lose by 50 points but the important numbers are the delegates. It always has been. If he walks away with around 10 she still is only 16 points ahead of him minus the supers.

Take a deep breath and remember that we must be in this for the long haul.

I was expecting a 25 pt loss, 50 say the prior pollsters were WAY off in who they thought was 'representative' of actual voters on the day.

Oh, it will be made to seem so by the pundit class and the Brock run Clinton Machine.

But the stark truth is that Clinton lost yet again the youth vote and the Independent vote. She simply can not win the GE without those. And her machine is doing everything possible to burn those bridges just to try and win this primary.

My odds are on a Sun Tzu style of long term conflict as opposed to a General Sherman scorched earth campaign.

I am giving more thought to how to survive 4 years of Trump and a Republican Congress, though. If Clinton does take the nomination, I'm obviously going to need to get as much medical and dental work done as possible this year, before the ACA is finally repealed and premiums start to skyrocket again. That and get as much cosmetic work done on the house to be ready to put it up on the market if it's time to move to an actual blue state, since my red state governor and legislature will have no more reason to even pretend to be moderate, and will feel free to simply try to kill off the poor.

Plan ahead.

10% to 20%

http://www.enr-scvotes.org/SC/59277/160596/en/vt.html

Low turnout means a loss. Both now and in the general.

....because FREEDOM or some bullshit.

That's why the other 46 states still need a voice.

He won a state by 20+. She gets a 50%. He may get a 60% margin in VT.

Delegates are where it counts in a primary. The margin is still only like 16 at this point.

First the SC result, and then because of the three tacos I blew 4 bucks on. I've literally seen cigars fatter than those tacos.

Next time you can get the chorizo quesadilla.

before Nevada that if we won there we could win in SC.?

This is to the others who posted the same as well..

Let's not be like them and rewrite history. A week ago we thought we could win Nevada and ride that momentum to SC.. A position held by several Sanders supporters

I was only hoping to lose by less than 20. 50 tells me the conservative states as a whole are going to be nightmarish.

hardly representative. A few OPINIONS were very optimistic. Hardly enough to call it WE.

Before Nevada, plenty thought we could.

had to believe them. They were voicing opinions.

But a Bernie win? Naw.

When the media reports on the massive Sanders crowds, and how he polls, in states that favor his campaign, that will be the narrative that gets jumped on.

Senator Sanders was in front of crowds, yesterday, and today. Smart move, all things considered, imo.

People in the know had SC marked firmly as Clinton's and it turns out it's her Vermont. Now we move on. Bernie's states are all coming up in March and April!

Bernie's supporters on the internet are capable of countering the MSM, as we saw with Sander's U of Chicago photos and Huerta's twitter debacle. Everyone just needs to stay on top of the news cycles. This is a new kind of campaign never seen or tried before. We knew it was an uphill battle, but we've only just started climbing. Bernie is not stopping and intends to reach the top: the Dem Convention.

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There are 26 states just in the next 3 weeks. This was only the 4th. Turn off MSM.

we went into the NH primary knowing that it was going to be a win for Sanders.

They are all saying he needs to get out and meet voters one on one.
He needs to get more personal about himself. They are all talking about how they were surprised he didn't talk about more of his stories of his time in CORE in SC -

and tonite in Minnesota why didn't he give his supporters a We're still in it to win it speech instead of a his stump speech.

I hate to sound negative - I just want him to win.

The attack dogs were waiting to pounce on anything he did when his campaign starting getting its leg underneath itself. So instead he wowed them by letting it be about the magic of the campaign. Instead of Sanders being the front man, he played rhythm guitar for the message.

Clinton's variety of issues relating to ethics surfaced slowly, but surface they did, and without Sanders having to become part of the narrative.

Sanders was extremely careful to not overplay his incredible record, and now the period of excruciating examination of it has passed, and they can't call foul on anything he said.

It still will be a minefield, but now Sanders can take on Clinton's record, and he can talk about his life story, and his supporters are in place on social media, and he has more than a few honest commentators on his side. He'll now have a fair chance to be heard; a few months ago, definitely not so much.

His position in the hearts and minds of the public is on the rise. To poll Secretary Clinton's position in the public's regard is to explore uncharted depths.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2324

...he'll be accused of pandering and white-splaining. This meme has been pushed hard by Clinton supporters and advocates for months. The dude is not allowed to point out the facts of his life.

and screw her. She has been playing dirty throughout this whole campaign. And the msm has direct ties to her campaign.

Bernie is fighting against all odds.

They did not need to engage in the race card, gender card, Tea Party card, or anti-youth card. They had the whole party machine behind them and strong grassroots support.

Yet they chose ugly identity politics anyway to distract from their corruption (Goldman Sachs, drug companies, oil companies, Monsanto, etc). And they wonder why some of us want nothing to do with this kind of dirty politics?

He's fighting the party apparatus. He's doing a remarkable job at that.

The system is rigged. The sitting politicians are bought. The whole racket is about to become unglued.

The next week will test how solid Bernie's support is, or just how much of Bernie's support is from bandwagon fans. If the Establishment wants to do a "Dean Scream" on Bernie, it will be within the next week, when Bernie is going to be at his weakest.

And listen less to Jeff Weaver and Tad Devine.

Bernie HAS good people on his side who could help him reach out to the black community. He needs to listen to them as his first priority.

completely frightens the cowardly .01%.

I think most people knew it would be a blow-out. What I don't understand is why all the gloating about the huge win when South Carolina will NOT be voting Democratic in November. If Barack Obama couldn't pull it off with that huge AA advantage, what makes them think that Hillary will be able to?