I always thought he had genuine good intentions. I don't think we've had a president with truly good intentions since Carter.

He took positive glee at the time at being viewed as having played the 'spoiler' role, even if the reality was far different.

Reminding how disastrous HRC turns out to be.

I plan to do the same.

I don't think she'll win because Millennials won't GOTV, Independents will either not vote, vote Green or, Heaven forbid, vote Trump because they don't like the establishment and Republicans will crawl naked over broken glass to vote against her.

Disastrous is right - in that she can't win and, even if she does, nothing will change.

if only temporarily

post general will be very interesting, no matter who wins imo

how she campaigns to it.

And many will...

I think I'm going to run for something next cycle. Something small, something local, but the question is whether to run as a Green or a Socialist.

Some places have more support for one or the other.

can become a springboard for a new progressive party perhaps, or at least a coordinated effort to begin real pushback on the corporatists

And perhaps another on on the Repub side.

This energy is not going away though. It was there during the Bush Admin, it was there in 2008, it was there in 2010, it was there in OWS and it's still here now, only stronger. The Establishment Dems have done everything they can to bury it, but the Left will not become part of the "One America" RW they are wishing for.

and return in December.

what will you do blah blah blah.

Let the people vote.

If I can identify another candidate who will fight for the people against the corporations, I will vote for that person.

if HE had done this, where would we be now? but no, sat back on his bank roll, and pops up every 4 years to wag his finger at the dems.

criticism of Dems, right or wrong, but nary a word for Republicans.

he had a great platform, which he folded up and stuck in the closet.
now he lectures others. oy.

go out and campaign for him for president after July, because he shall be the nominee!

I'm not worrying about Bernie. He's running a brilliant campaign, gaining ground daily, and is getting out the right message despite all efforts to silence him and his supporters.

Enough with the doom and gloom, oh woe is me stuff. Stop falling for the corporate media shit sandwiches.

If we keep fighting for him, he's got this.

They sent Kucinich out to try and placate us right before the police started firing off tear gas and hitting people.

That particular mass civil disobedience (which was pretty damned large) didn't really produce any tangible results. That's not an argument against protest, but simply to say that it would need to be on a scale not seen since 1968.

and Arab Americans endorsing a Jewish 74 year old from Vermont, and Jews and Arabs and Muslims holding joint demonstrations for BLM, among other examples, we can, while being sober and realistic as we can, allow ourselves to return to "anything is possible" type of energy in the movement!

Are there groups or coalitions who might be up for it, working together? Names and links? Maybe worth a new thread..anyone?

when someone blames Nader, they're approving of Jeb's voter caging
when someone blames Nader, they're approving of the Brooks Brothers riot
when someone blames Nader, they're approving of Katherine Harris's voter purge and direct intervention
when someone blames Nader, they're keeping the Dem party able to shrug off facts and reality

after 15 years of passing GOP policies, running Pubs as Dems, sabotaging the better-polling primary candidates, torpedoing and gerrymandering those who won the primary if they upset the gravy train, and leaving Gore out to dry on the Congress floor, it's clear the never blamed Nader because he'd cost Gore Florida

in the same way HRC supporters currently blame Bernie for Hillary's bad platform (well, whatever planks in it that she hasn't ripped right out of Bernie's campaign).

Could have won his own state, it's all irrelevant

Talk is cheap, and yes.... so is revolt and marches.

Let the rubber hit the road. I'm not assuming you're not doing this, but IF YOU'RE NOT, then enough of the, "what will you do?"

Instead, I'm putting the question to all of you....WHAT WILL YOU DO?

Will you phone bank when you get off work and talk to others in the upcoming states?

Will you insist that you letter to the editor correct the local paper's deficit of information regarding Sanders?

Will you organize locally to hand out material in areas of your own city where people don't know Bernie as much?

THIS AND THIS ONLY is the least you can do. Talk is but one thing. ACTION, quite another!

unfortunately, this logic, brought to us by someone I used to consider a hero, did not turn out well.
Long past time for Nader to shut up.

There is probably 9¢ worth of difference, but a dime? I think Gore would have continued Clinton's policies of beating up on the most poor and vulnerable, of mass incarceration, and Clintonian foreign policy to the extent that I think we'd still have had the Iraq war, albeit perhaps on slightly different terms. But I think Bush was so bad that people forget what the Clinton-Gore machine was actually like for the working class in this country, as well as what their FP was.

But of course, the answer there was for Gore to actually move to the left instead of continuing with the Third Way garbage. I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's not Bernie's fault that Hillary's platform stinks by comparison, and it wasn't Nader's fault that Gore's platform stunk by comparison. It's not Bernie's job to get you to vote for Hillary, and it wasn't Nader's job to get you to vote for Gore.

Now, can there be reasonable disagreement about these things? As you and others here have illustrated, yes there can be. Obviously this is just my own view. I don't deny there is a good argument to be made against it.

And I will not bring it up...it sets up a mind set that we will lose...well I will not even consider losing.

Be Positive!

Be Strong!

And Go, Go for Bernie!