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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:40 PM Mar 2016

Plight of Michigan's Democratic Superdelegates: A Case of Winnability in America's General Election

"Michigan's Mystery Super-Delegates are not longer secret anymore as a blog post on the Michigan Populist Blog has exposed the highly discussed at least in this primary election - seldom revealed - Superdelegates!

The Supedelegates are best described as seventeen individuals who are the Michigan Democratic Party cream of the crop with magically powers to vote during a political party convention "their own way" despite supposedly voting as the populace of Michigan voted - in an election.

In other words, what is totally non-democracy like, and definitely all totalitarian natured.

A Democracy is defined according to Merriam-Webster as an:
1). (A) government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
2). A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
3). A political unit that has a democratic government.

On Tuesday, March 8, Michigan voters participating in the states' open primary voting on a chosen Democratic ballot, confirmed their desire for U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders to win the Democrat Nomination and a Proportional Delegation of Michigan's 147 delegates as a result.

However, seventeen Party Leaders and Elected Officials, otherwise called PLEO's amazingly can "go their own way" with their so-called pledged delegate vote.

Why so? Frankly, because for some unknown reason only in the Democratic National Committee (DNC) "rules", each of these Party Leaders and Elected Officials are special. Very Special.

Special beyond the point of voting the way of what voters in Michigan decided with Bernie Sanders, to Supersede the People's will to pledge themselves to Hillary Clinton. And that is not very Democratic or Democracy like, at all.

The seventeen PLEO's are made up in an interesting potpourri mix of names voters might know, or not at all since some are private citizens along with being granted the status of Democratic Party Leader. Others are Congressional Representatives."


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Plight of Michigan's Democratic Superdelegates: A Case of Winnability in America's General Election (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 OP
It's not for an unknown reason, though. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #1
Oh WOW!!! LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #3
Super Delegates, Electoral College StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #2
Guess not... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #4
It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'Democracy' is. Gwhittey Mar 2016 #8
Yes... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #10
This is why she'll lose the GE if she's the nom. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #5
Agreed..... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #6
Absolutely agree. SoapBox Mar 2016 #7
SC here Gwhittey Mar 2016 #9
We need to begin a campaign on these SD's RobertEarl Mar 2016 #11

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
1. It's not for an unknown reason, though.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

DWS flat out stated that the purpose of superdelegates was to prevent establishment candidates from having to worry about grassroots uprisings. I'll see if I can find the quote, I remember it being posted here a few months back...

ETA: here it is:

Democratic National Committee chair and Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said on Thursday that superdelegates "exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists."

http://truthinmedia.com/dnc-chair-superdelegates-protect-party-leaders-from-grassroots-competition/

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
8. It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'Democracy' is.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

nt

Boy that quote of Bills is versatile as hell.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
5. This is why she'll lose the GE if she's the nom.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

The DNC can force her on the ticket but they can't force people to vote for her.

Here's a list of the super delegates. Click "State" in the header row to sort by State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

Eight of my state's 12 super delegates have already committed to Clinton, even though Bernie got 59% of the caucus vote.

The dem party will have no one but themselves to blame if we end up with a wacko in the White House.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. Agreed.....
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016
"The dem party will have no one but themselves to blame if we end up with a wacko in the White House."


Either they can listen to the will of the voters in State's Bernie Sanders Won or Tied like Iowa -- or risk turning America over to the hairpiece crazy guy from NYC.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. Absolutely agree.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:45 PM
Mar 2016

It's a suicide mission, if they have the "brass" to push her into the GE.

She will lose in a GE.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
9. SC here
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

And all my SD are Lobbyist except one who is undecided. Rest are for Clinton. Sucks We can't even with hold our votes from the assholes because they are appointed due to being a lobbyist.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. We need to begin a campaign on these SD's
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:54 PM
Mar 2016

They need to know we need them to vote for Bernie.

And we need to begin a challenge campaign on the other delegates that were selected in states with small turnouts, like SC, where just 13% voted. 13% is not representative. 13% wouldn't even be a quorum.

I think with both campaigns we can get a majority of votes at the convention and have Bernie chosen by the people.

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