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merrily

(45,251 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:13 PM Mar 2016

Bernie Butter - the low, low, low-priced spread. I won't buy it. I wouldn't even accept it free.

In fact, I wouldn't take it if you paid me.

"I'm for Bernie but....."

This is often followed by full-throated defense of Hillary, or some attack on Senator Sanders and/or supporters of Senator Sanders.

I don't know why anyone has to begin a statement with which candidate they support in the general. Either the content of your statement stands on its own or it does not. Please don't attempt to give your support of Hillary or your attacks on Senator Sanders or on us by attaching his name to your nonsense. Attempts to misappropriate his credibility for nonsense that attempts to deceive others are disgraceful.

Also, I have news for all the wannabe purveyors of Bernie Butter: Supporters of Sanders have a very good idea of who supports Sanders and who does not. So, any effort to endow your statements with Sanders' credibility is not likely to fool anyone but you. Don't waste your breath.

The above applies in real life, on this board and everywhere on the internet. In the event of any doubt as to a claim made on this board in particular, though ,search DU for the name of the poster and Hillary, then search again for the name of the poster and Bernie Sanders. My guess is that the search results will tell a discerning DUer all he or she needs to know.





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Bernie Butter - the low, low, low-priced spread. I won't buy it. I wouldn't even accept it free. (Original Post) merrily Mar 2016 OP
Yep. "I'm for Bernie, BUT" "I admire Bernie, BUT" - and always followed by djean111 Mar 2016 #1
Very true. It applies to the pledge, but it also applies to other kinds of statements. merrily Mar 2016 #3
No that's actually a bang on paraphrase of a post I saw. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #15
Cool. I love to get my bang on almost as much as I love to get my spot on! merrily Mar 2016 #21
Well as long as it's lightly banging it won't leave a mark like being spot on. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #22
Here is a link to that OP Kalidurga Mar 2016 #24
Please edit your post to advise jurors that the TOS no longer forbid call outs and, anyway, posting merrily Mar 2016 #26
OH Boy Gwhittey Mar 2016 #28
They can't have it both ways anymore. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #29
Catch 22s and double standards abound. merrily Mar 2016 #31
No kidding. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #32
Inasmuch as Bernie is a demon.... merrily Mar 2016 #33
Cthulhu for VP FTW!!!! Kalidurga Mar 2016 #36
This kinda shows Gwhittey Mar 2016 #27
ok, I admit to having done that - but indeed here is where I have - hollysmom Mar 2016 #2
A lot of people have been posting that Bernie dresses better than Hillary? I missed all that. merrily Mar 2016 #5
P.S. You passed my search DU test on the third hit. merrily Mar 2016 #8
Heh you should read my salon posts. hollysmom Mar 2016 #34
No. That post was clear enough for my purposes. I accept you as a Bernie sister. merrily Mar 2016 #35
To myself I called them "Berniebutts" nt wendylaroux Mar 2016 #4
They do seem in need of ointment, don't they? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #6
Then, give them some helpful advice, as follows: Salve yourself! merrily Mar 2016 #9
Vats of it. nt wendylaroux Mar 2016 #11
Great! I admire and envy your wordsmithing. But, I'm personally such a delicate Victorian flower, merrily Mar 2016 #7
I too had trouble at first, wendylaroux Mar 2016 #10
Pardon my bad pun. merrily Mar 2016 #12
It's alright wendylaroux Mar 2016 #30
Butt-vapors are just the worst. n/t Scootaloo Mar 2016 #13
Epic Fundraising = Electability corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #14
I agree that Bernie is electible, but Hillary also does well at fundraising. So did Jeb. merrily Mar 2016 #17
Oh.... SoapBox Mar 2016 #16
. merrily Mar 2016 #19
Bernie butting is one of the tactics that comes out of the Think Tank. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #18
Ah, the Stink Tank. merrily Mar 2016 #20
you forgot, "not that there is anything wrong with that." Basta rhett o rick Mar 2016 #23
Didn't forget. I just don't support malfunctioning keyboards. Why do you hate America? merrily Mar 2016 #25
Butter? Duckfan Mar 2016 #37
They are both artificial concoctions. merrily Mar 2016 #38
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Yep. "I'm for Bernie, BUT" "I admire Bernie, BUT" - and always followed by
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

a directive to vote for whoever is the nominee. Oh, and rule of thumb - none of these people think for one fucking second that the nominee will not be Hillary. Keep that in mind if you are thinking hey, they would vote for Bernie!!!!!

There is really no reason to be declaring and/or extracting the Pledgey Thing at this point in time.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Very true. It applies to the pledge, but it also applies to other kinds of statements.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

"I am for Bernie, but I can't stand all this Hillary hate from the Republican trolls who claim to support Bernie."

That's an extreme example, but I've seen close.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
24. Here is a link to that OP
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1460706

What I find troublesome is that those against Hillary, even Democrats, are focused on 20 year old unproven right wing conspiracy theories.


See how close you were.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Please edit your post to advise jurors that the TOS no longer forbid call outs and, anyway, posting
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

a link is not a call out.

Seriously, this group is alert stalked and I have seen Bernie Supporters get a hide for posting a link or a screen cap. Sucks, but it is what it is.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
29. They can't have it both ways anymore.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

They say prove people say those things. You do and then they alert because you proved people say those things. It's not cool. I will take a hide if that is what it takes.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
32. No kidding.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary says that economic justice and legislative reform will help bring about social justice and in fact you can't legislate social justice you can only hope to change some hearts with good laws and advocacy.

Bernie says the same thing and he is a demon.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
2. ok, I admit to having done that - but indeed here is where I have -
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

if someone wants to vote for sanders or clinton because of their ideas, I am all for it, but if someone chooses between them based on their clothes, I think they should read more on the subject of issues. I used to be a good dresser when I had a fancy job and had to sell myself, but being retired and mostly wearing jeans, not so much. I like to keep comfortable shoes far too long. I resent when anyone is picked on because of their clothes looks down on the most comfortable beat up shoes ever
I guess I am prodding people to keep it on a better plane and not fall in to the Trumpovia method of discussing candidates.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. A lot of people have been posting that Bernie dresses better than Hillary? I missed all that.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

However, isn't it possible to say "Don't judge a Presidential candidate by his or her clothes?" without prefacing it with, "I'm a Bernie supporter, but,,,,,"

By the way, people IRL are judged by their appearance all the time because how they look can say things about them.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
34. Heh you should read my salon posts.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

Everyone thinks I am in some other camp. I really love some articles and hate others. Some writers misquote people or have tons of typos and otjers are beautiful and full of links that really can change my mind or reinforce an idea. Maybe I should concentrate on the ones I love.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Great! I admire and envy your wordsmithing. But, I'm personally such a delicate Victorian flower,
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

posting about butts would give me the vapors

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
14. Epic Fundraising = Electability
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:49 PM
Mar 2016

I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Skeptics and cynics love to complain that Bernie can't win the general election. We all know that a focused message is key but it must be transmitted. The fact that Sanders has shattered fundraising records (which already were most formidable under Obama) should assuage many concerns.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. I agree that Bernie is electible, but Hillary also does well at fundraising. So did Jeb.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

Trump, on the other hand, doesn't need to raise funds because TV ads are the most expensive campaign item and every station runs infommercials for him for free.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. Bernie butting is one of the tactics that comes out of the Think Tank.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:54 PM
Mar 2016

I like Bernie but if his supporters keep ...................... then I will vote for the wonderful Secretary Clinton, oops I mean the opposing candidate.

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