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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:43 PM Mar 2016

I don't see this happening

With losses in both Florida, NC, and trending against him in Ohio the delegate math is getting difficult. I really thought he'd win Florida and Ohio. Illinois is close, but that is one of her many home states. *sarcasm*

I hope Bernie will be on the ballot in Oregon so I can vote for him. Barring some political crash and burn by Clinton (which I suppose could happen) she will be the nominee.

Sorry to be such a negative nelly.

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I don't see this happening (Original Post) davidpdx Mar 2016 OP
....How did you see him winning Florida? retrowire Mar 2016 #1
Maybe was hoping for a miracle davidpdx Mar 2016 #5
MSNBC & NPR just called Ohio for Clinton. Never expected Bernie to win FL. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #2
CNN hasn't yet davidpdx Mar 2016 #7
Corporate MSM- CNN, MSNBC, print and all of it- is as much or more of an obstruction appalachiablue Mar 2016 #13
CNN just projected Ohio davidpdx Mar 2016 #11
I didn't expect him to win Ohio, either. As long as he comes close, it won't matter. winter is coming Mar 2016 #18
It is not over until its over. nt JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #3
I really want to believe that davidpdx Mar 2016 #10
Too many Dems are are just as ignorant as their Republican counterparts. Broward Mar 2016 #4
Another Oregonian here. potone Mar 2016 #6
I'm from Oregon, but living overseas davidpdx Mar 2016 #9
It really is sad Gwhittey Mar 2016 #8
The only hope is that maybe one of these scandals takes hold and she has to drop out davidpdx Mar 2016 #12
He was never going to win FLORIDA or NC... Southern states. He'll win Illinois and Missouri. in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #14
I hope you are right davidpdx Mar 2016 #16
Right now it's tightened to a single digit lead for Clinton in MO and IL.....4% reported! in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #17
I agree with you, but its making me cry. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #15
First if all - no one thought he'd win anything today and even if that happened, he STILL HAS A PATH in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #19
If he can win Il and Mo, he still has a path.. basselope Mar 2016 #21
I felt Ohio was very important, but we survive IF we can win IL and Mo basselope Mar 2016 #20

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
1. ....How did you see him winning Florida?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

That was a no go.

Besides, by all our research thus far, this is her last good day. She has no more southern states.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
5. Maybe was hoping for a miracle
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

I've heard continuously that the map is going to shift in Sanders' favor, but it hasn't.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
13. Corporate MSM- CNN, MSNBC, print and all of it- is as much or more of an obstruction
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

than Big Money to non establishment candidates like Bernie who received NO coverage while the world was bathed in Trump. Also Trump, the New Yorker is popular in southern and western states despite the obvious cultural differences. Meaning Bernie could have been known and liked there too, esp. as a populist if he'd been covered fairly by the media.

M$M has tremendous power to influence voters and elections, like nasty voter suppression and illegal vote tampering tactics. MSM is a huge problem, and what it will take to overcome is beyond me. Even with all, Bernie and supporters are doing a terrific job. The establishment Media will now beat the drums that this election is Clinton's, to further dissuade pending Bernie voters.

Thanks Reagan for ignoring the Fairness Doctrine and Clinton who deregulated the Telecoms in 1996 enabling 5 giant corporate media monopolies now. Since joining this board I've tried to counter many who believe the rest of Americans follow alternative, indy news online-- because They do. I gave up trying to reason with them about why that isn't the case.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
18. I didn't expect him to win Ohio, either. As long as he comes close, it won't matter.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016
On March 15, winning Ohio by a 9 point margin (as he does here) doesn't help Sanders. Winning it narrowly or losing it narrowly would get him pretty much the same amount of delegates. That is because the delegates are distributed in a particularly arbitrary way in Ohio. Most Ohio Congressional districts have exactly 4 delegates, and it would be very difficult for either candidate to win 3-1 in any of those districts.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/11/1498975/-Can-Bernie-Sanders-still-win-the-Democratic-nomination-Here-s-how-he-could

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
10. I really want to believe that
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

If I'm wrong I'll gladly eat my shoe and post a picture of it.

I hate to say it, but we need one of these Clinton scandals to take her out of the race.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
4. Too many Dems are are just as ignorant as their Republican counterparts.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

There's little hope for this country when most people continue to vote against their own interests.

potone

(1,701 posts)
6. Another Oregonian here.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
Mar 2016

I feel the same way: I want to vote for Bernie even if he can't win. I feel very discouraged right now. Florida was never going to be a victory for him, but the Ohio loss is bad. I am afraid that we're in for a bad night.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I'm from Oregon, but living overseas
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

It was hard for me to do much to help the campaign other than try to donate as often as I can. In fact I just sent another donation yesterday which emptied my US bank account.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
8. It really is sad
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

She can not win vs Trump in the GE. She has too much shit stacked up by being so bought and paid for. And Trump knows this because he runs in circle of people who she took bribes from.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. The only hope is that maybe one of these scandals takes hold and she has to drop out
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

Then the Democrats would have no choice but to nominate Bernie.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
14. He was never going to win FLORIDA or NC... Southern states. He'll win Illinois and Missouri.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

Ohio will be closer than it is now. Besides that, he owns the West coast. From here on out, it's Bernie's.

Turn off the corrupt corporate owned MSM!

There's no fucking way she LEGALLY wins all five states.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
17. Right now it's tightened to a single digit lead for Clinton in MO and IL.....4% reported!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:24 PM
Mar 2016

4% .... 96% left to report.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
19. First if all - no one thought he'd win anything today and even if that happened, he STILL HAS A PATH
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

To win, because his states are coming up. AZ, CA., WASHINGTON, MONTANA, OREGON...he's going to kick her ass after today.

And secondly, he's doing BETTER today than he was expected to do. He's going to win Illinois and MO. - THAT was unexpected, so he moves on in a better position than he was suppose to. He still has a path to victory

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
21. If he can win Il and Mo, he still has a path..
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

I fear w/o a win in Il.. it becomes almost impossible to keep people motivated.

But taking "her home state" would be a big boost.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
20. I felt Ohio was very important, but we survive IF we can win IL and Mo
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:43 PM
Mar 2016

I'm just afraid even a string of victories in states going forward is not going to change the narrative.

With Ohio going so far to Clinton, MI becomes the "odd state out" in the eyes of the media.

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