That's what I hear people saying about him.

Much more exciting than the production models.

b/c you don't want to weaken the Dems + make them vulnerable to the GOP winning. Look at what happened in 2000.

The election would not have been as close as it was, causing the area that was grey enough so that it escalated to the Supreme Court.…Hence, shrub + Cheney + Iraq…

The media consortium that counted all the votes reported that if ALL votes from every county in Florida had been counted, Gore would have been the electoral college winner as well as the winner of the popular vote.

A tragedy for America and the world, imo.

by a half-million votes. Also, about ten times more Democrats in Florida voted for Bush than Nader supporters voted for Nader.

I don't think so.…citations, please.

First, Democrats. Yes, Democrats! Nader only drew 24,000 Democrats to his cause, yet 308,000 Democrats voted for Bush. Hello. If Gore had taken even 1 percent of these Democrats from Bush, Nader’s votes wouldn’t have mattered. Second, liberals. Sheesh. Gore lost 191,000 self-described liberals to Bush, compared to less than 34,000 who voted for Nader.

Nader typically points to the controversial Supreme Court ruling that halted a Florida recount, Gore's loss in his home state of Tennessee, and the "quarter million Democrats who voted for Bush in Florida."[7]

thinks this is all about "party." It's about what's right for the country and the people of America. Anyone who places party above country has things terribly upside down.

One of the reasons Bernie ran as a Democrat is because he didn't want to take votes away from Hillary Clinton because he knew that she, despite her (imo humongous) flaws, would be better than a Republican. He didn't want to cripple her. So for the sake of the country he would most likely prefer that she win over any Republican.

However, I do not recall Bernie saying he'd "endorse" her. And I also doubt he would tell his supporters to enthusiastically jump on her bandwagon, because she and Bernie are miles apart on pretty much everything. But I could see him telling people that she would be better than a Republican and so it would make sense to vote for her.

yes

Just more Camp Weathervane stuff stirring.

I'd say more flame bait and alert massacres, but seeing most of us are blocked from that group, I imagine they're just getting over their butt hurt after this weekend's moment of truth.

Of course, the unanswered question is, will Clinton endorse Sanders? Sore winners, sore losers.

That is a totally reasonable demand considering that. Or GATS and too big to fail banks.

Basically, Hillary has to stop the WTO's Clinton era war on the people of the world.

She should give the Indian subcontinent back their right to education. And let them keep their teachers. We don't need them, we have no labor shortage.

Goving away health care should not be a crime for governments.

HRC gets a shot at the Presidency and we get . . . ?

Americans get to leave the country and move to Costa Rica or similar places where we will be hated.

Later on, if he loses to her, I think he would endorse her.
But, he's not going to endorse her until that time comes, if it ever comes.

So, no, it isn't true.

the president needed to be primaried in 2012 over progressive issues that were abandoned after the 2008 General Election.

As stated in post #6, Bernie's not stupid. I think until the nominee emerges, he'd need to keep the pressure on to bring out the issues where they disagree. Already her stance has moved to the left.

And my hunch is that Bernie is too smart to split the Democratic party; therefore, if he lost the nomination to HC, he'd endorse her.

But then, on the other hand, his beliefs are no where close to hers. The contrast if pretty strong, with both sides. With this in mind, I suspect it would be hard for either one to endorse each another.

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had more in common than not. Indeed, Bernie and HRC couldn't be more different.

of banks and other international advestors.

The government would likely by then have to repay them for the entire worth of their lost expected profits.


Look at Achmea, the Achmea v. Slovak Republic II case. On italaw.com.

Do you know about "indirect expropriation"?

Do you know about the General Agreement on Trade in Services?


You can't get any more real than the agreement which stripped the worlds most populous country (and dozens of others including our own) of any hope of having a right to education or health care.

For example, read the discussion here.


I could never make this stuff up.

to the 2008 campaign promises of partiality?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017345351

on board with certain parts of HIS beliefs and platform? Haven't we seen enough from Obama that talk is cheap?

so I can't see how he could endorse her.

Even if she claimed to have adopted his principles, she has such a long history of lying that that would not be credible.

However what that piece said was he'd endorse her if she did get on board with his principles, not that he wouldn't endorse her. So I guess he'd have to believe a chronic liar. Stranger things have happened.

the whole point of them is to remove the economic things, like profitable health care and education, things people need and presumably will pay dearly for, from the set of things that democracy can change, in essence to lock countries in.

To make it so whatever we do, we'll still be stuck.

As many mnay have pointed out, the deals are all - so profoundly wrong, they represent a global coup, and are anti-democracy. its against everything that I feel our country should stand for.

i don't care who she is, if she supports that I don't support her.

endorses her.

I will not be voting for that.

Even if he does not win the nomination, he has amassed an enormous support base. That gives him tremendous influence in Democratic party policies.

But Bernie knows what's at stake. He won't just support Hillary, he will campaign for her in the general election. He will strongly encourage his supporters to get her elected.

But I hope it does not come to that -- I'd rather see Bernie as the nominee.

A: nothing but ratfucking.
B: Bernie has every right to demand that his supporters are represented in the Democratic platform.
C: Fuck every one of them who don't like it. They aren't on our side any way.