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wilsonbooks

(972 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:53 PM Mar 2016

Team Clinton Desperately Trying To Lower Expectations In Wisconsin

https://www.americarisingpac.org/team-clinton-desperately-trying-to-lower-expectations-in-wisconsin/

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Team Clinton Desperately Trying To Lower Expectations In Wisconsin (Original Post) wilsonbooks Mar 2016 OP

Good! Let Wisconsin continue Berniementum peacebird Mar 2016 #1

Their toast is Bern't. dchill Mar 2016 #2

You could say that she's given up on Wisconsin tularetom Mar 2016 #3

I think it's a smart strategy for Hillary not to spend too much time in WI BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12

ny is difficult because a person had to be registered last oct to vote questionseverything Mar 2016 #4

March 25 was the deadline for new voters to register for eligibility to vote in the NY primary. smokey nj Mar 2016 #5

Oh good. Now I feel better! nt thereismore Mar 2016 #7

seems confusing to me and that seems like it favors folks who have never registered over questionseverything Mar 2016 #10

That's Clinton's strategy. Frontload States. Frontload votes. Frontload voter registrations. thereismore Mar 2016 #6

I guess she is starting to worry about NY? Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #8

Yes. The momentum is all our way. wilsonbooks Mar 2016 #9

Well it's a "white state" and she doesn't fight for those states. jillan Mar 2016 #11

We've been working hard for Bernie. Her name doesn't come up all that much ... Scuba Mar 2016 #13

Thanks for all that you are doing. wilsonbooks Mar 2016 #14

Interesting. SheilaT Mar 2016 #15

New York will be an uphill battle. wilsonbooks Mar 2016 #17

This tells me that they have given up on Wisconsin and RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #16

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

1. Good! Let Wisconsin continue Berniementum

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:55 PM

Mar 2016

dchill

(38,505 posts)

2. Their toast is Bern't.

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:58 PM

Mar 2016

tularetom

(23,664 posts)

3. You could say that she's given up on Wisconsin

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:58 PM

Mar 2016

But you could make an equally strong case that she gave up there because she is scared shitless of losing NY.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)

12. I think it's a smart strategy for Hillary not to spend too much time in WI

Reply to tularetom (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:37 PM

Mar 2016

It is an open primary (which favors Bernie) with 85 delegates at stake. There are 5 closed primaries with over 600 delegates at stake on April 19 and April 26 (NY, PA, MD, CT and DE) plus a semi-open primary in Rhode Island. That is Hillary's firewall. If she simply splits the delegates in those states the math for Bernie to overtake her in pledged delegates becomes very nearly impossible. If she wins 55% of the delegates there, it is over.

I think Bernie is going to need to get out of Wisconsin for the next week and go back the day before the primary.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)

4. ny is difficult because a person had to be registered last oct to vote

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:59 PM

Mar 2016

before young people were thinking about the election at all

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)

5. March 25 was the deadline for new voters to register for eligibility to vote in the NY primary.

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:06 PM

Mar 2016

The Oct. deadline was for changing party affiliation.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)

7. Oh good. Now I feel better! nt

Reply to smokey nj (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:07 PM

Mar 2016

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)

10. seems confusing to me and that seems like it favors folks who have never registered over

Reply to smokey nj (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:13 PM

Mar 2016

long time independent voters

but ty for correction

thereismore

(13,326 posts)

6. That's Clinton's strategy. Frontload States. Frontload votes. Frontload voter registrations.

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:06 PM

Mar 2016

It is smart. Her machine can get her NY. If it is by much, it could be very hard to recover from.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)

8. I guess she is starting to worry about NY?

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:09 PM

Mar 2016

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)

9. Yes. The momentum is all our way.

Reply to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:12 PM

Mar 2016

jillan

(39,451 posts)

11. Well it's a "white state" and she doesn't fight for those states.

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:14 PM

Mar 2016

Just a little reverse humor mods.

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

13. We've been working hard for Bernie. Her name doesn't come up all that much ...

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:46 PM

Mar 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280154296

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)

14. Thanks for all that you are doing.

Reply to Scuba (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:59 PM

Mar 2016

This is how we will win.

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)

15. Interesting.

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:08 PM

Mar 2016

What I find most interesting is that those two guys are saying that the Clinton campaign is conceding Wisconsin at this point, and isn't even trying to hold the margin of victory down, but they're probably still confident they'll win NY big.

My guess is that if Bernie wins Wisconsin big, which is looking more and more likely, he'll have a lot of forward motion (otherwise known as momentum) going into the NY primary. Delaware and Connecticut also have primaries that day. And a week later MD, PA, RI. He could win NY, even if by a small margin. And if, as I and others far more knowledgeable that I think, the polling simply isn't fully capturing the turn to Bernie, then NY could be a huge surprise in his favor. And if that happens, even though Hillary will no doubt stay in to the end, as she probably should, it will in reality be all over for her at that point.

He also gets lots more donations after every win or loss. And he holds far more rallies than Hillary does. She's more occupied with big-donor events, and clearly doesn't get it as to how much that's helping people turn away from her.

Another thought about NY: It will be interesting to see if there's a huge difference in the voting between NYC and the rest of the state.

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)

17. New York will be an uphill battle.

Reply to SheilaT (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:06 PM

Mar 2016

The party machinery will pull out all of the stops. If Bernie can there though I believe that we are unstoppable.

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)

16. This tells me that they have given up on Wisconsin and

Reply to wilsonbooks (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:16 PM

Mar 2016

are very worried about NY, as they should be.
I predict that Bernie will take NY.

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