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Al Franken voting for Hillary no matter what happens. (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Mar 2016 OP
how sad yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #1
Sorry Al. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #2
well we heard it from the Dean first! retrowire Mar 2016 #3
If it were Bernie with all the superdelrgates I'd wager Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #28
cnn asked dws and she hopemountain Mar 2016 #30
Al is now the establishment Pharaoh Mar 2016 #4
Al is a total loss. All the hard-hitting, biting, charismatic wit I had imagined would be used to GoneFishin Mar 2016 #12
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ swilton Mar 2016 #20
Al was never as progressive as you might imagine. Even during his bbgrunt Mar 2016 #29
You're probably right. I was more focused on the crap that Karl and Darth were pulling at that time. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #31
Al just joined the ranks of my fecal register! n/t RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #5
"... no matter what she does, no matter what she supports" MisterP Mar 2016 #6
As is his right. nt Nailzberg Mar 2016 #7
Who's saying it isn't his right? I must have missed something. LiberalElite Mar 2016 #8
Obviously from the primary results xloadiex Mar 2016 #9
++++++++++++++ swilton Mar 2016 #19
Then he can just be voted out of office! in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #10
Wow, Al, we hardly knew ye. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #11
No more donations from me, "pal". /nt NCjack Mar 2016 #13
Wasn't Paul Wellstone his idol? Mentor? I remember from the Air America Days. WWPD? Nt ALBliberal Mar 2016 #14
Win Win for Franken Billsmile Mar 2016 #15
YES! TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #33
That's an awfully bold stance for someone who Aquavit Mar 2016 #16
Al Franken on Fracking: Donkees Mar 2016 #17
Al & Iraq Billsmile Mar 2016 #22
So it's OK to f*** up OTHER states Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #32
Strangely enough, Colin Peterson who represents Minnesota's 7th Congressional District dflprincess Mar 2016 #18
Al needs to be primaried in 2020. Send him over to K Street with a plush office next to Howie Dean. Impedimentus Mar 2016 #21
In his case, I understand paulthompson Mar 2016 #23
So Al Franken of all people should realize that the sanctity of the election must be honored. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #24
Not surprised SHRED Mar 2016 #25
Bernie won Minnesota by a huge margin The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #26
#60? Lobo-Nose Mar 2016 #27
Al, needs to get a big, fat ear full! SoapBox Mar 2016 #34
Al was "DLC" long before he ran for the senate Pastiche423 Apr 2016 #35
Did not know that. leftcoastmountains Apr 2016 #36

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
3. well we heard it from the Dean first!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:01 PM
Mar 2016

Super delegates don't represent the people and aren't obligated to do so.

Wooo democracy!!! Everyone should be outraged about this, but Hillary Supporters are happy with it and tell us to just accept it.

It's all such a farce isn't it? people died for our right to vote, and yet only the Democratic party holds on to the super delegate system, which grants every serving member of the DNC including it's corporately funded lobbyists (Hi Dean!) the super delegate title which gives them each the power of 10,000 voters.

yep, people died for that. and Hillary supporters are totally chill with it.

yay!!!

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
28. If it were Bernie with all the superdelrgates I'd wager
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:18 AM
Mar 2016

he'd be asking them to get off their high horses.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
30. cnn asked dws and she
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:36 AM
Mar 2016

said the purpose of the super delegates is to keep a grassroots candidate from being elected!!!!!

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
12. Al is a total loss. All the hard-hitting, biting, charismatic wit I had imagined would be used to
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

rally people around ambitious progressive goals evidently was traded away for a spot at the cool kids lunch table.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
29. Al was never as progressive as you might imagine. Even during his
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:30 AM
Mar 2016

Air America days he seemed more concerned with comedy than hard hitting progressive views. I remember reading "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot" and "Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them" and he did a great job of critiquing right, but he didn't seem to be aware of some of the deeper systemic problems in our system. Of course it was a different time then, but he seemed very complacent/complicit about things like the DLC and the right-ward shift of the Dem. party.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
31. You're probably right. I was more focused on the crap that Karl and Darth were pulling at that time.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
8. Who's saying it isn't his right? I must have missed something.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

OTOH I bet you'd be feeling differently if the shoe were on the other foot. Hmmmm?

xloadiex

(628 posts)
9. Obviously from the primary results
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

there's enough people in Mn who think differently than him on who they would like as the leader of this country. If he wants to play this shit, vote him out of office. Make sure he knows this is the plan.

Billsmile

(404 posts)
15. Win Win for Franken
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:21 PM
Mar 2016

Al probably knows that Clinton rewards friends & punishes enemies, so he's good as far as that goes. And if Bernie happens to win it all Al will be good then too because Bernie's not the kind of politician.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
33. YES!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

I think accounts for at least some of her SDs. No one wants to be on the Clinton shit list. Bernie doesn't have a shit list and never will.

Aquavit

(488 posts)
16. That's an awfully bold stance for someone who
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

once won election by less than 350 votes. Especially with his candidate losing by over 40 points in the caucuses.

Maybe he needs a little reminder that caucus-goers matter.

Donkees

(31,420 posts)
17. Al Franken on Fracking:
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016
“But most of the fracking that we’ve been doing, is what we’ve had a revolution in, in natural gas. And because of that, we’ve lowered the cost of manufacturing in this country tremendously because of the electricity that we do, with very cheap natural gas… Minnesota produces no fossil fuels whatsoever, but we use a lot of natural gas in our manufacturing and it’s beneficial…”

Billsmile

(404 posts)
22. Al & Iraq
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:01 PM
Mar 2016

Al's judgement & support for the Iraq war was similar to that of then Senator Hillary Clinton. They took Bush at his word. Sanders did not.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
32. So it's OK to f*** up OTHER states
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

because Minnesota needs the natural gas and the fracking won't be done in their state, so f*** all you other states.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
18. Strangely enough, Colin Peterson who represents Minnesota's 7th Congressional District
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:43 PM
Mar 2016

who is the most conservative Democrat in the state and came out as a Clinton supporter now says he will vote for Bernie at the convention because that's who won his district.

Bernie won every Congressional District in the state, Al and Amy (Klobudhar) should pay more attention.


Impedimentus

(898 posts)
21. Al needs to be primaried in 2020. Send him over to K Street with a plush office next to Howie Dean.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:56 PM
Mar 2016

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

paulthompson

(2,398 posts)
23. In his case, I understand
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

Obviously, I wish he was a Sanders supporter. But in his case, I understand. He's explained that he feels he never would have become senator if it hadn't been for Hillary Clinton. His election was extremely close, and he asked Hillary to take part in some last minute rallies for him. She did, and he feels that's what put him over the edge, since he only won by 300 votes or so.

If that's how he feels, you can see why he would feel a great sense of loyalty to Clinton.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
24. So Al Franken of all people should realize that the sanctity of the election must be honored.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:16 PM
Mar 2016

Totally undemocratic otherwise. Feeling beholden to Hillary isn't reason enough to overturn the will of the people.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
26. Bernie won Minnesota by a huge margin
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:36 AM
Mar 2016

and yet Al is apparently happy to disregard the will of the majority of his DFL and independent constituents (Minnesota doesn't require voters to register by party). When he has to run for re-election in 2020 I'm sure we'll all get lots of emails begging for contributions, and maybe he thinks we'll have forgotten about how he stabbed us in the back. We won't. I guess all that sweet cash he gets from the DNC will make up for it?

I think we Minnesotans should write to him - polite but firm paper letters, sent by snail mail. Politicians (or their staff) are much more likely to read paper letters; email is too easy to ignore.

It's tempting to point out to him that he's not only betraying Minnesota voters but the memory of Paul Wellstone.

 

Lobo-Nose

(9 posts)
27. #60?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:04 AM
Mar 2016

Don't forget that after an eight month battle with republican Norm Coleman, who would not accept his defeat in the election, Al Franken became the 60th democratic senator, giving President Obama a filibuster-proof majority.... when asked by the media how it felt to be magic number sixty, his reply was "I am not number sixty, I'm ONE of two senators from the state of Minnesota!" Thats the kind of spineless dough boy and corporate democrat Franken is. Remember, republicans RULE when they are in the minority, and rule ABSOLUTELY when in the majority because of democrats like Franken.

Pastiche423

(15,406 posts)
35. Al was "DLC" long before he ran for the senate
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

I watched him many times on Dave Lettermen's show and was surprised that he was so conservative.

When it took so long to get him seated in his senate seat, I din't care.

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