Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumAl Franken voting for Hillary no matter what happens.
I've looked for confirmation. Someone in the chat on Bernie2016TV
said he was on CNN and told them he was going with Hillary period.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Super delegates don't represent the people and aren't obligated to do so.
Wooo democracy!!! Everyone should be outraged about this, but Hillary Supporters are happy with it and tell us to just accept it.
It's all such a farce isn't it? people died for our right to vote, and yet only the Democratic party holds on to the super delegate system, which grants every serving member of the DNC including it's corporately funded lobbyists (Hi Dean!) the super delegate title which gives them each the power of 10,000 voters.
yep, people died for that. and Hillary supporters are totally chill with it.
yay!!!
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)he'd be asking them to get off their high horses.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)said the purpose of the super delegates is to keep a grassroots candidate from being elected!!!!!
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)they all seem to go that way. except Bernie!
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)rally people around ambitious progressive goals evidently was traded away for a spot at the cool kids lunch table.
swilton
(5,069 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Air America days he seemed more concerned with comedy than hard hitting progressive views. I remember reading "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot" and "Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them" and he did a great job of critiquing right, but he didn't seem to be aware of some of the deeper systemic problems in our system. Of course it was a different time then, but he seemed very complacent/complicit about things like the DLC and the right-ward shift of the Dem. party.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Nailzberg
(4,610 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)OTOH I bet you'd be feeling differently if the shoe were on the other foot. Hmmmm?
xloadiex
(628 posts)there's enough people in Mn who think differently than him on who they would like as the leader of this country. If he wants to play this shit, vote him out of office. Make sure he knows this is the plan.
swilton
(5,069 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Easy peasy, Al.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Never had him pegged as a status quo, voter ignoring, establishment guy.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)Billsmile
(404 posts)Al probably knows that Clinton rewards friends & punishes enemies, so he's good as far as that goes. And if Bernie happens to win it all Al will be good then too because Bernie's not the kind of politician.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,202 posts)I think accounts for at least some of her SDs. No one wants to be on the Clinton shit list. Bernie doesn't have a shit list and never will.
Aquavit
(488 posts)once won election by less than 350 votes. Especially with his candidate losing by over 40 points in the caucuses.
Maybe he needs a little reminder that caucus-goers matter.
Donkees
(31,420 posts)But most of the fracking that weve been doing, is what weve had a revolution in, in natural gas. And because of that, weve lowered the cost of manufacturing in this country tremendously because of the electricity that we do, with very cheap natural gas Minnesota produces no fossil fuels whatsoever, but we use a lot of natural gas in our manufacturing and its beneficial
Billsmile
(404 posts)Al's judgement & support for the Iraq war was similar to that of then Senator Hillary Clinton. They took Bush at his word. Sanders did not.
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)because Minnesota needs the natural gas and the fracking won't be done in their state, so f*** all you other states.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)who is the most conservative Democrat in the state and came out as a Clinton supporter now says he will vote for Bernie at the convention because that's who won his district.
Bernie won every Congressional District in the state, Al and Amy (Klobudhar) should pay more attention.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)FEEL THE BERN - 2016
paulthompson
(2,398 posts)Obviously, I wish he was a Sanders supporter. But in his case, I understand. He's explained that he feels he never would have become senator if it hadn't been for Hillary Clinton. His election was extremely close, and he asked Hillary to take part in some last minute rallies for him. She did, and he feels that's what put him over the edge, since he only won by 300 votes or so.
If that's how he feels, you can see why he would feel a great sense of loyalty to Clinton.
jhart3333
(332 posts)Totally undemocratic otherwise. Feeling beholden to Hillary isn't reason enough to overturn the will of the people.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Afterall...they both cheered on the illegal Iraq invasion.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)and yet Al is apparently happy to disregard the will of the majority of his DFL and independent constituents (Minnesota doesn't require voters to register by party). When he has to run for re-election in 2020 I'm sure we'll all get lots of emails begging for contributions, and maybe he thinks we'll have forgotten about how he stabbed us in the back. We won't. I guess all that sweet cash he gets from the DNC will make up for it?
I think we Minnesotans should write to him - polite but firm paper letters, sent by snail mail. Politicians (or their staff) are much more likely to read paper letters; email is too easy to ignore.
It's tempting to point out to him that he's not only betraying Minnesota voters but the memory of Paul Wellstone.
Lobo-Nose
(9 posts)Don't forget that after an eight month battle with republican Norm Coleman, who would not accept his defeat in the election, Al Franken became the 60th democratic senator, giving President Obama a filibuster-proof majority.... when asked by the media how it felt to be magic number sixty, his reply was "I am not number sixty, I'm ONE of two senators from the state of Minnesota!" Thats the kind of spineless dough boy and corporate democrat Franken is. Remember, republicans RULE when they are in the minority, and rule ABSOLUTELY when in the majority because of democrats like Franken.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)I watched him many times on Dave Lettermen's show and was surprised that he was so conservative.
When it took so long to get him seated in his senate seat, I din't care.