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Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:16 PM Apr 2016

Remarkable HRC Group Thread

Get a load of the thread below. It features two cartoons sharply critiquing the undemocratic nature of superdelegates. And the HRC supporters love them. Either they aren't understanding the artists' intent (which is bad), or they understand the artists' intent and just don't care (which is worse).

If you visit, it's probably best not to comment: First, out of respect for their protected space (and posting a critical remark over there will probably get you banned from the group); and second, because I'm interested in any new posts they may add to the thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=97798

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Remarkable HRC Group Thread (Original Post) Old Crow Apr 2016 OP
... warrprayer Apr 2016 #1
They've already banned so many people The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #2
I was struck in another thread by a Clinton supporter... Old Crow Apr 2016 #6
I can't believe what a Big F'in Deal they are making of the Vatican conference! The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #9
Yeah, that was an amazing thread in a number of ways. Old Crow Apr 2016 #10
Morning Joe Kittycat Apr 2016 #53
Thanks so much for directing me to this! Old Crow Apr 2016 #54
I am already banned RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #3
I've been saying for months that they lack self awareness. draa Apr 2016 #15
Proudly Number 2 On The HRC Banned List cantbeserious Apr 2016 #4
well done! yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #7
LOL! Way to go, Cantbeserious! Old Crow Apr 2016 #8
List Of HRC Blocked Members cantbeserious Apr 2016 #5
Holy Toledo! And it grows day-by-day. Old Crow Apr 2016 #12
Yes - The HRC Group Has Only 390 Subscribers - 816 Are Banned - 387 Have Trashed The Group cantbeserious Apr 2016 #14
Thanks, I just remembered I could trash that group and I got this.... draa Apr 2016 #17
Looking forward to seeing her in history's trash can. Divernan Apr 2016 #52
Yeah! I'm 775! Mbrow Apr 2016 #16
. Doctor_J Apr 2016 #18
I wear my banishment Plucketeer Apr 2016 #22
wow... my name is not on there. desmiller Apr 2016 #26
Just Post A Critical Comment In The HRC Group - Poof - One Will Be Added cantbeserious Apr 2016 #28
LOL, CBS! (May I call you CBS?) Old Crow Apr 2016 #34
Proud to be #502! dchill Apr 2016 #31
Latest ratios eridani Apr 2016 #37
I'm #198? I thought it was LiberalElite Apr 2016 #49
wow. very informative. 496 here restorefreedom Apr 2016 #62
Now now Politicalboi Apr 2016 #11
Your prognostication there may be on the money. Old Crow Apr 2016 #13
Seems like such an unwise move doesn't it? abelenkpe Apr 2016 #20
I'm convinced that the only way they got her to stop fighting and support Obama was to... hedda_foil Apr 2016 #41
Yes. Extra cookie for you. Bernin4U Apr 2016 #42
Me love cookies! hedda_foil Apr 2016 #43
Nom nom nom nom! LOL! Old Crow Apr 2016 #45
Yeah but I think the DNC cannot in any way countenance the possibility of a bjo59 Apr 2016 #27
Bernie beltanefauve Apr 2016 #38
I wish you and others would not cross-post stuff from that group. Doctor_J Apr 2016 #19
Fair enough; hadn't thought of it like that. Old Crow Apr 2016 #21
I understand Doctor J's feelings Plucketeer Apr 2016 #23
Last one in... for today and... DeGreg Apr 2016 #24
I'm with you regarding the blocks. Old Crow Apr 2016 #25
That thread PROVES they know... dchill Apr 2016 #29
Oh, they DEFINITELY know it. Old Crow Apr 2016 #32
Whoosh! dchill Apr 2016 #33
Their remarks are so clueless as well. they have no idea those cartoons were slams. litlbilly Apr 2016 #30
That's to be expected from the hardcore folks who have no principles, just idolatry. cui bono Apr 2016 #35
Thanks for you thoughts, which I'm still processing. Old Crow Apr 2016 #36
Also, look at the whole racial/BLM issue. It's only used when it can be used against Bernie. cui bono Apr 2016 #39
~deep sigh~ I find some of this really depressing. Old Crow Apr 2016 #40
tonight there's a thread about how lovely Hillary is... grasswire Apr 2016 #44
"Are you kidding! that says it ALL right there! Super 'Toon!" Contrary1 Apr 2016 #46
I tried... but ended up on the 'blocked' totem pole HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #47
Yes, I saw your first post over there last night... Old Crow Apr 2016 #55
We in this group are pretty much LiberalElite Apr 2016 #48
Yet they deny that they, and their candidate, are tone deaf. Scuba Apr 2016 #50
It is not that they don't get it - they get it, it makes them happy, they are proud of it, djean111 Apr 2016 #51
Yes, cui bono was opening my eyes to some of this earlier. Old Crow Apr 2016 #56
That's what it looks like to me too. surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #58
They really don't get that Bettie Apr 2016 #57
They do get it. It works FOR Hillary so they are just fine with it. djean111 Apr 2016 #59
I don't understand that Bettie Apr 2016 #60
I shudder to think what they would not stoop to, at this point. djean111 Apr 2016 #61
they are a stupid lot Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #63

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
2. They've already banned so many people
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:23 PM
Apr 2016

(816 at last count) that I doubt many of us could comment if we wanted to (they got me 116 people ago, the first time I posted there). But yeah, clearly they don't get the meaning of those cartoons at all.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
6. I was struck in another thread by a Clinton supporter...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

... who was gloating in the fact that, counting superdelegates, HRC has gotten more delegates than Sanders from Wyoming, despite the fact that Sanders beat Clinton handily in the popular vote.

I don't know, but I like to think that if the shoe was on the other foot, I might feel a pang of conscience about the subversion of the democratic will. Clearly, this poster felt no such pang.

By the way, Ocelot, thank you for offering good advice the other day regarding my Vatican conference post.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
10. Yeah, that was an amazing thread in a number of ways.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

My name for the thread was "The 'Yup!' Heard 'Round the World!"

They were just outraged over that "Yup!" I mean, outraged! In the end, it made a lot of the HRC supporters look quite petty. I have to think some of that outrage was being ginned up as a way to take attention away from Bill Clinton's shouting and finger-pointing at the BLM protesters here in Philadelphia, which was a PR disaster if ever there was one.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
53. Morning Joe
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

Ages ago when I watched MSNBC, I watched him while I took care of the kids AM routine. Every now and then he'd have a streak of sanity. He seems to be one that cheers for the underdog/injustice in the democratic matters when he does bother to grow a pair. I was also waiting for the day that Mika decked him or decided to just say f'it, and go full table flip on him. Because, well - anyway.

Here's a clip on the delegate situation this AM that he actually spoke out on. Someone put it up in another forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511703498

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
54. Thanks so much for directing me to this!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:26 AM
Apr 2016

I don't watch TV so I wouldn't have seen it otherwise. It's good to see that some in the mainstream media are questioning the wisdom and fairness of superdelegates.

Incidentally, I love your avatar. You're also a good writer, by the way, judging by this post of yours ("go full table flip on him" had me chuckling).

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
3. I am already banned
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

Those nuts over there just don't get it even when a cartoon is against their view. It's astounding!

draa

(975 posts)
15. I've been saying for months that they lack self awareness.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

It's really strange to watch otherwise smart people look so damn stupid. smh

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
5. List Of HRC Blocked Members
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

1 Duckhunter935
2 cantbeserious
3 pscot
4 leveymg
5 broiles
6 BlueStreak
7 Scuba
8 Enthusiast
9 jeff47
10 tularetom
11 Fairgo
12 frylock
13 tridim
14 RedstDem
15 SheilaT
16 PoliticAverse
17 Travis_0004
18 Warren Stupidity
19 Cosmic Kitten
20 Wellstone ruled
21 easychoice
22 OffWithTheirHeads
23 SamKnause
24 Politicalboi
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54 darkangel218
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58 doc03
59 nikto
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61 imthevicar
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63 cui bono
64 Paka
65 A Simple Game
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68 heaven05
69 truebrit71
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Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
12. Holy Toledo! And it grows day-by-day.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

I think a better approach for them might be to keep a list of DU members who are NOT banned from their group. It will be a heck of a lot shorter and easier to maintain.

draa

(975 posts)
17. Thanks, I just remembered I could trash that group and I got this....
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016
Hillary Clinton has been added to your Trash Can.


Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
16. Yeah! I'm 775!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

screw them, Man how can they call them selves dems is beyond me. I mean how can you take an honest look at HRC and call her a good candidate? It's not only here, A lot of talk show hosts on progressive radio are pro HRC as well. It is so weird.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
37. Latest ratios
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:40 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders group
Number of subscribers: 1015
Number of people trashing: 176
Number banned: 327
Ratio of subscribers to banned: 3.10

Clinton group
Number of subscribers: 391
Number of people trashing: 389
Number banned: 816
Ratio of subscribers to banned: 0.48

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
11. Now now
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

Let them have their pity party. They'll see when the Queen loses that they are to blame for Trump. They picked someone who is tainted to the gills. They ain't too bright. So let's just ignore these Hillbillies. Let's hope the law will rid us of Hillary Coattails once and for all. And soon.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
13. Your prognostication there may be on the money.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016

For the moment, I'm still holding on to the belief that Bernie can be the nominee. It does astound me that the party establishment has been so wedded to the idea of a Hillary Clinton candidacy, considering that her likeability numbers have always been in the basement.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
20. Seems like such an unwise move doesn't it?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary was rejected by democrats in 2008. Why push her now? It's limits enthusiasm from the get go.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
41. I'm convinced that the only way they got her to stop fighting and support Obama was to...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:04 AM
Apr 2016

Promise her the following:

1. Appointment as Secretary of State

2. Help paying off her campaign debt

3. A clear field and full support from O, the administration, the DNC, DSCC, DCCC,.DGA and any other arm of the Democratic establishment at the state and federal levels to nominate and elect her as President in 2016.

4. Appointment of her choice of DNC Chair for her run in 2016.

There may be more, but that's my list.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
27. Yeah but I think the DNC cannot in any way countenance the possibility of a
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:18 PM
Apr 2016

"break up the banks" candidate making it into the White House. There's no doubt a lot riding on subverting that potentiality.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
19. I wish you and others would not cross-post stuff from that group.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:08 PM
Apr 2016

I hid it for a reason - because I don't want to read it. I don't understand why anyone would post their stuff here.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
21. Fair enough; hadn't thought of it like that.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

I was so astounded that the HRC supporters were laughing at the cartoons that I had the impulse to share and see if others would find it as troubling as I did.

But you make a good point and I apologize. I'll refrain from cross-posting going forward. Thanks.

 

DeGreg

(72 posts)
24. Last one in... for today and...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

You want to know how many Hillary folks I've blocked = 0.

I will never block a Hillary supporter because I do what I can to avoid cognitive dissonance. And, I practice every day trying to have an open mind. And I try to learn something new every day. And, that's no big shit, but wow wow wow I'll never understand how anyone who ever thought they were a democrat or thought they understood the values of a democrat could ever in good conscience vote for this person. They ought to be sued on the court of intellectual honesty for stealing the brand name. Proud #816.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
25. I'm with you regarding the blocks.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:00 PM
Apr 2016

I have blocked not a soul on DU, HRC supporter or otherwise, for the very same reason: I don't want to put myself in a bubble and isolate myself from ideas and opinions I may disagree with. It isn't easy to avoid becoming closed-minded, but I do make the effort.

Welcome to DU, by the way!

dchill

(38,505 posts)
29. That thread PROVES they know...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:25 PM
Apr 2016

she doesn't have to be democratically elected to the nomination. Too bad superdelegates don't carry over to the general.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
32. Oh, they DEFINITELY know it.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:37 PM
Apr 2016

What gets me is that the potential rigging of the nomination, and short-circuiting of democracy, doesn't trouble them at all. I would have thought that anyone on a website called "Democratic Underground" would have a hard time laughing at the idea of democracy being subverted. But apparently not.

The HRC Group has by now (of course) noticed this thread, have created their own copycat thread, and are making fun of us, calling us (among other things) "special little snowflakes" who are unable to understand their sophisticated humor.
- - -

So here's an aside to the HRC Group lurkers:

Trust me. We Bernie Sanders supporters get the humor in the cartoons. They're worthy of a rueful chuckle. What several of you folks don't seem to understand is that those aren't Bugs Bunny or Tom & Jerry cartoons, penned just for laughs. They're political cartoons, which means they are illustrating a political point. Both artists of the cartoons are clearly indignant about how superdelegates subvert democracy.

And at the start of this thread, I said what I'll say now: Either you HRC supporters aren't understanding the point underlying the cartoons (which is bad) or you don't care about the point (which is worse).

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
35. That's to be expected from the hardcore folks who have no principles, just idolatry.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

They can't give any reason why they support her over Bernie that is issue based. They just want her for some reason. Most of them must be paid operatives because they are not supporting what is in their best interests, they are supporting big money.

They are not here to stand up for principles or democracy. They could care less. They are merely here to support the corporate candidate, just like they did with Obama when he offered up SS, when he didn't care about our civil rights and privacy, when he uses drones, when he pushes for the TPP, etc, etc, etc... All the things we all agreed were terrible when Bush was president are A-Ok when Obama or Hillary is for them. It's a ruse.

.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
36. Thanks for you thoughts, which I'm still processing.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:33 AM
Apr 2016

If you're right, it's worse than I thought. I'd like to think you're wrong, but as a proponent of Occam's razor, I find your conclusions hard to refute.

Thinking about it, yes, I think you've identified what's going on with a handful of the hardcore HRC supporters--people whose usernames we're all too familiar with. Their personas on here don't seem at all normal or balanced. On occasion, I definitely get the sense that I'm interacting with a marionette and the motive behind whoever's pulling the strings is monumentally dishonest and cynical.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
39. Also, look at the whole racial/BLM issue. It's only used when it can be used against Bernie.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

When Hillary is worse to BLM, not a peep. When she completely ignored that BLM activist with the sign and just kept on talking as if she wasn't even there, not a peep. When Bill Clinton said BLM was defending murderers, still, not a peep.

The only reason race was an issue during this campaign is that is was being exploited to be used for political gain. Sadly I think it worked. They started their sort of whisper campaign early on against Bernie and by the time prominent black leaders came out for Bernie and he also started actually getting a little bit of media coverage, the low information/low education Republican run states had already voted. Hey, if I didn't pay much attention to things but kept hearing that meme I would have that in my mind as well.

Then there's the thing where blacks and PoC who were Bernie supporters were bullied to the point where they didn't come back to DU. And I was told via pm that one particular poster was "not black enough" to voice her opinion.

And someone, same person who sent the the pm, said that Cornel West criticism of Obama was worse than all the deaths that Kissinger was responsible for. I mean really, who can possibly actually believe that?

They don't believe in anything, this is just a game to them, a team sport. Nothing matters except winning. They are just like the out of control coaches who would punch someone in the face to defend their team. Win at any cost is their only principle.

.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
40. ~deep sigh~ I find some of this really depressing.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:57 AM
Apr 2016

I also, about one third of the way into your post, let out a "Wow!" because you were enlightening me with some things that I was hazily aware of but had never heard anyone concretely identify.

Oh my gosh.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
44. tonight there's a thread about how lovely Hillary is...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:57 AM
Apr 2016

...and about her jewelry and so on. And then the OP writes "...some might think this is shallow...."

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
46. "Are you kidding! that says it ALL right there! Super 'Toon!"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:26 AM
Apr 2016


Maybe the inability to interpret what is right in front of them explains their undying loyalty to Hillary.
 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
47. I tried... but ended up on the 'blocked' totem pole
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:02 AM
Apr 2016

#817

The parting post
"I'm sorry did you not see this is Hillary's Group for Hillary's Supporters? Thank you"

"for understanding that you have the whole rest of the board but we reserve this for her supporters.

I don't go into the BS group as a Hillary supporter.. I would be blocked in a second. As it is I was out and no other hosts were around so you got to go on and on about nothing."

I see Cha is quite the... hmm what to say, what to say...

They do NOT want anything inside their 'bubble' that invokes truth, data or history... where have I seen this type of behavior before recently?

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
55. Yes, I saw your first post over there last night...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:38 AM
Apr 2016

... checked in later, and was surprised how long you lasted. Ordinarily, they have a hair-trigger when it comes to banning DU members. Cha's comment explains why you were able to voice a dissenting view as long as you did.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
48. We in this group are pretty much
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:57 AM
Apr 2016

muzzled. They don't want to hear from us, respectful or not. In this regard they mirror the Powers That Be.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
51. It is not that they don't get it - they get it, it makes them happy, they are proud of it,
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:35 AM
Apr 2016

they are counting on it. Y'all are too kind to think they just don't get it.

The level of nastiness is waaaaaay deeper than most suspect.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
56. Yes, cui bono was opening my eyes to some of this earlier.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:42 AM
Apr 2016

I have a hard time accepting the reality, I suppose.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
58. That's what it looks like to me too.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

The system is rigged, but, since it's rigged in their favor, they like it like that.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
59. They do get it. It works FOR Hillary so they are just fine with it.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

They are actually crowing and gloating.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
60. I don't understand that
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

if something is wrong, it is wrong when it works in your favor as well.

I don't like caucuses. I've lived in primary states and now, Iowa. While the caucus is an interesting exercise, it is not representative of the will of the people of the state and I've said so when it was in favor of my chosen candidate and when it was not.

Right and wrong don't change dependent on whose side you are on.

Stuff like this really makes me wonder if I'm handicapping my kids by raising them to believe that honesty is more important than anything else.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
61. I shudder to think what they would not stoop to, at this point.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

Remember, they are knowingly supporting a candidate who is enthusiastically for war and fracking and the TPP, cluster bombs, adding restrictions to getting abortions, and means-testing Social Security. Ya think they have scruples?

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