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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:35 AM Apr 2016

Bernie and the msm blackout Esp Msnbc. Could it be something more than Hillary Shilling?

I have come to the conclusion that when Bernie - or Jane - appears on msnbc the pundits aren't interested in what they have to say, they are only looking for a gotcha moment. But this morning I am wondering if it is something more.

I suffered thru MTP yesterday to watch Bernie. I listened to his entire interview. He did fine, he was his usual self, answered Chuck's questions. Nothing memorable or offensive. So imagine my surprise when I clicked on Huffington Post later & read this headline Sanders: 'Something Clearly Lacking' In Clinton's Judgment.
Bernie was answering charges of sexism, because ya know when he brings up the differences between him and Hillary it of course is sexism. Luckily HuffPo had the clip so I could watch it again. He was talking about their differences & why he questions her judgement. This 1/2 of a sentence was not even what the discussion was about - yet this is the headline. The entire interview was missed & yet they chose to focus on the second half of a sentence.

And then there was Jane's interview with Rachel. People all over the internet fell in love with Jane that nite. Not just here, facebook groups & twitter as well. #ImWithJane started trending. Yes the Hillbots were attacking Jane, that was to be expected. Back to Rachel, those of us who watched Jane's interview & watched Rachel the following evening were surprised that Rachel basically implied that Jane was a liar about Bernie's fundraising for down ticket Dems because to Rachel, this is an important issue this primary. Even tho Jane explained this thoroughly.

And then there is Joy Reid. She is on a constant rampage on twitter against Bernie and his supporters. Her latest one last nite was that Bernie supporters are claiming their revolution is more important than the Civil Rights movement. Seriously?? I am active online here, twitter, facebook and NEVER once heard anyone saying that. Maybe someone did, but that is not what Bernie supporters are saying!! But Joy really showed me her soul when this woman, who has always spoken out for equality for POC stood up to defend Bill Clinton's rant when the BLM protesters challenged Hillary's racist comments from the 90s. Joy really has a problem with Bernie.

Not to mention that MSNBC, with the exception of Lawrence O, never has on anyone on their so-called panels to speak for Bernie. They will always have a Cruz surrogate, Trump surrogate, Hillary surrogate and then an msnbc reporter like Kristen Welker.
CNN does a much better job, they often will have on Nina Turner, Bill Press, Katrina vanden Heuvel. You just don't see that on MSNBC.

Obviously msnbc does not want Bernie to be President. They never cover anything positive about him. Ever. (with the exception of Lawrence) Instead they tear him apart. Rip him to shreds. I have also noticed that they really don't talk about Hillary either. Just like at DU when it comes to the Dem primary all they talk about is the last 1/2 of a sentence Bernie said during a 10 minute interview. The "gotcha" moment. I would expect this from Repugs, not from fellow Democrats.
They never mentioned his upcoming trip to the Vatican OR even the amazing townhall at the Apollo OR even how Bernie and his surrogates masterfully handled the heckler that was slurring anti-semitic slurs at Bernie.

Maybe we are missing something here. They are not selling Hillary, they are selling Trump. And Cruz. Bernie is just someone to verbally attack. They do not want Bernie to even have a fair shot. Why is that?

(At this moment I am listen to Tamron Hall rip a new one into Jeff Weaver. She is literally scolding him & she just called him sexist!!!!!).

Why is that? Why is Bernie treated differently? What is different about Bernie? Oh ya, he is a Jew. Yes, I am going there. The msm always mentions how Hillary would make history as the first woman president & anyone who attacks her is sexist. They never mention that Bernie would also make history by being the first Jewish president. Bernie already has made history by being the first Jewish presidential candidate to win a primary (let alone several) or to earn pledged delegates (let alone over 1000). Did you hear about that on msnbc? CNN?

When Hillary is attacked, it's sexism. So why isn't it anti-semitism when Bernie is attacked? Maybe msnbc has a problem with Jews. Do they even have one Jewish person on air? There is Ari Melber & Richard Wolf (is he still there?). Interesting how you never see them.

Let's open our eyes. Bernie is being treated differently. What else could it be? Maybe it's time to speak up. I am. The evidence is there. I'm not going to ignore it anymore.


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Bernie and the msm blackout Esp Msnbc. Could it be something more than Hillary Shilling? (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
I think that is a part of it... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #1
Bernie also called out G.E. specifically. That won't help. JudyM Apr 2016 #3
The problem isn't the calling out of GE ... Trajan Apr 2016 #18
Agreed - without question. JudyM Apr 2016 #19
Agreed, it's all about GE not paying taxes, Qutzupalotl Apr 2016 #30
I'm done making excuses for them. It's time to call them out. jillan Apr 2016 #6
That is why, also the anchors are all payed a shit of money awake Apr 2016 #14
Exactly. nt Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #16
^^^this^^^ TDale313 Apr 2016 #29
MSNBC is all out today bashing Bernie with surrogates Caroline Malone; Tamron appalachiablue Apr 2016 #2
They display pure hatred towards Bernie for no reason. I am going to assume they are not ready jillan Apr 2016 #4
Honestly I think it's the $$$ TDale313 Apr 2016 #31
It makes me believe.. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #7
That is the reality I think and hope. Still, M$M bias does influence voters which isn't good appalachiablue Apr 2016 #10
It is a really treacherous fine line to suggest anti-semitism. Can completely, hugely backfire. JudyM Apr 2016 #5
I agree. Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #8
People have stereotyped and *immensely* bigoted issues with Jews having power. JudyM Apr 2016 #12
K&R nicely done! Mbrow Apr 2016 #9
Protest DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #11
Turn it off! roody Apr 2016 #13
Nope - I'm going to fight back. jillan Apr 2016 #15
compare EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #17
K&R 1,000x! Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #20
I'm going to go with Robert Reich's take on the media. draa Apr 2016 #21
I definitely agree with that too. But I can't unsee Tamron Hall scolding Jeff Weaver jillan Apr 2016 #22
Meh, I don't let that shit bother me anymore. draa Apr 2016 #23
I didn't see it...how did Jeff react? n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #24
He did great. He stuck to his talking points. I would be surprised if he didn't stop for a drink jillan Apr 2016 #25
Thanks. I really like his energy. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #26
How about because ALL mainstream media leans right. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #27
it is corporate owned and supported by banks and oil larkrake Apr 2016 #28
I think it's more about money and corporate power dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #32

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
1. I think that is a part of it...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

But I think it really comes down to the fact that Comcast -- the owner of NBC -- knows that Bernie will not be bought & will cost them a lot of money. All of the MSM is owned by huge corporations and they have a fiduciary duty to earn money for their shareholders they know if all the candidates in the running Sanders is a threat to their $$$$.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
18. The problem isn't the calling out of GE ...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

The problem is GE not paying taxes ...

It is right and proper to call out giant corporate tax avoidance by those companies who enjoy the safety and security of the marketplace provided by U.S. taxpayers ... They should pay their fair share, without question ....

jillan

(39,451 posts)
6. I'm done making excuses for them. It's time to call them out.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:48 AM
Apr 2016
I'm done watching Bernie be treated like that.

awake

(3,226 posts)
14. That is why, also the anchors are all payed a shit of money
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

and they are worried that they will be paying higher taxes if Bernie wins

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
29. ^^^this^^^
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

It's all about the money. The corporate owned media is scared Bernie will hurt their bottom line.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
2. MSNBC is all out today bashing Bernie with surrogates Caroline Malone; Tamron
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

just told Jeff Weaver 'Claire McCaskill said Bernie's comments were 'sexist', now an analyst saying Bernie's attacking, Hill has plans to reform the Prison industry, banks etc. An all out, biased push to try to influence a win in NY. What a corporate fourth estate...

jillan

(39,451 posts)
4. They display pure hatred towards Bernie for no reason. I am going to assume they are not ready
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

for a Jewish President.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
31. Honestly I think it's the $$$
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:42 PM
Apr 2016

Corporate owned media's worried he'll raise their taxes and hurt their bottom line.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
7. It makes me believe..
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:48 AM
Apr 2016

That their internal numbers show that Bernie is up much more in NY than the are admitting. That's why they have to ramp up the assaults.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
10. That is the reality I think and hope. Still, M$M bias does influence voters which isn't good
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
Apr 2016

and unprofessional to say the least. The issue of vote tampering is another serious issue of concern esp. in critical NY as noted here yesterday.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
5. It is a really treacherous fine line to suggest anti-semitism. Can completely, hugely backfire.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:48 AM
Apr 2016

Even if it is in fact true. Nearly impossible to directly prove and will generate far more negative reactionary denials than accusations of sexism or racism. It is a much more loaded issue. We can see that on DU as well.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
8. I agree.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

I believe the media isn't lauding the fact he is Jewish in any meaningful manner not out of antisemitism but because the historic nature of being the first Jewish president takes away Hillary being the first woman president.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
11. Protest
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

When the protesters go to the convention in Philadelphia there will likely be protests at all the media headquarters as well.


EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
17. compare
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

the corporations that advertise on MSNBC and the corporations that use Hillary's campaign chairman's lobbying firm...

I noted that MSNBC has made all sorts of money off of Boeing - Boeing even sponsored the MTP App - Boeing also has gives millions to the Clinton foundation and MADE BILLIONS when Clinton was SOS.

Boeing is also represented by the lobbying firm owned by Clinton's campaign chairman...

I'm sure that's all just a big coincidence though... lol

draa

(975 posts)
21. I'm going to go with Robert Reich's take on the media.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016
Some Sanders supporters speak in dark tones about a media conspiracy against Bernie. That’s baloney. The mainstream media are incapable of conspiring with anyone or anything. They wouldn’t dare try. Their reputations are on the line. If the public stops trusting them, their brands are worth nothing.


The real reason the major media can’t see what’s happening is because the national media exist inside the bubble of establishment politics, centered in Washington, and the bubble of establishment power, centered in New York.


As such, the major national media are interested mainly in personalities and in the money behind those personalities. Political reporting is dominated by stories about the quirks and foibles of the candidates, and about the people and resources backing them.


snip


The major media have come to see much of America through the eyes of the establishment. That’s not surprising. After all, they depend on establishment corporations for advertising revenues, their reporters and columnists rely on the establishment for news and access, their top media personalities socialize with the rich and powerful and are themselves rich and powerful, and their publishers and senior executives are themselves part of the establishment.

http://robertreich.org/post/141981929755



jillan

(39,451 posts)
22. I definitely agree with that too. But I can't unsee Tamron Hall scolding Jeff Weaver
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:37 PM
Apr 2016

at the top of her lungs, in a tone that was decimals above the tone I used when my then 6 year old decided that the screen on daddy's brand new big tv was a perfect place to try out her artwork.... I have to question if it is something more.

draa

(975 posts)
23. Meh, I don't let that shit bother me anymore.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

There's a good chance Hall is a Clinton supporter and she's just as pissed as the Clinton supporters we see everywhere. How dare Bernie not drop out. How dare he challenge Clinton. How dare he expose the lies we've told.

I don't hold it against her supporters but I do find it funny.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
25. He did great. He stuck to his talking points. I would be surprised if he didn't stop for a drink
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

after that - he had to be fuming inside.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
27. How about because ALL mainstream media leans right.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie stands out because he is unapologetically left. The powers that be can stand a Third Way Democrat like Hillary because she won't upset the gravy train. She's got a first class ticket on the train.

Notice how trump also gets pummeled. He, however, deserves it for his positions. But, even if he wasn't so crude and outspoken, the media would still go after him because he is an unknown who can't be controlled.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
28. it is corporate owned and supported by banks and oil
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

and they fired those who wont play ball. Bernie may be Jewish, but not radically. He cares about everyone and is too likable to openly abuse.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
32. I think it's more about money and corporate power
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie is not their friend, and they respond knowing he is the one candidate who is not owned by them or by others like them.

Tamron Hall always struck me as nothing but another attractive and demographically aligned corporate mouthpiece.

I've seen what I believe is anti-Semitism in Africa American viewpoints, and I've long suspected this is a factor in them not warming to Bernie, but I don't know enough about the relations between those groups.

The media as a whole has many Jewish people in places of power.

Hillary IS the candidate of choice this election for the oligarchs.

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