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Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:20 AM Apr 2016

We are about to witness the largest disenfranchisement of registered voters in any state primary

ever.

There will be record numbers of voters claiming to be registered Democrats who are listed as 'Independent' or 'Inactive' for their party affiliation in the new integrated centralized electronic voter registration system, integrated into the state vote tabulation software.

A little heeded rules change by the New York Democratic Party has paved the way for the pending debacle. In it, the party revised the rule for terminating party membership due to inactivity - a membership audit rule intended to help keep the voter rolls clean and up-to-date. The rule was revised such that party membership would lapse (and party affiliation changed to, you guessed it, 'Independent' or 'Inactive') if a member did not participate in any two consecutive election cycles, including non-federal, non-state election cycles.

There was little publicity surrounding this rule change. Consequently, millions of Democratic voters who voted last in 2012 (like, say Millennials voting for Obama) had their party affiliations switched without notification. Without notification that is unless you had donated to the Hillary campaign or one of her supporting superPACs in which case you received a kindly email or letter from a Hillary PAC notifying you to reset your party affiliation before the October deadline.

plus,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511759392

This day will be interesting.

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We are about to witness the largest disenfranchisement of registered voters in any state primary (Original Post) Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 OP
wooooooooooot! EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #1
I haven't stopped thinking about this all night. bjo59 Apr 2016 #2
I hear you... Nyan Apr 2016 #9
So tired of corruption. merrily Apr 2016 #3
Planned for a long time. elleng Apr 2016 #4
This is jaw-dropping corruption! Insane corruption! Completely out-of-control... Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #5
Yes it is. elleng Apr 2016 #6
It couldn't be more clear. Nyan Apr 2016 #10
Where did you find this?? This is huge. lostnfound Apr 2016 #7
That certainly explains why the changes davidpdx Apr 2016 #8
What an outrage NJCher Apr 2016 #11
I grew up thinking peope were born democrats and that the party always took back strays HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #13
I agree, and it's going to shrink even more. Duval Apr 2016 #19
The number of independent voters in New York is mall compared to other states and Blue Meany Apr 2016 #12
Do you have a link to this? mak3cats Apr 2016 #14
They don't call it The Clinton Machine for nothing - "The Corrupt Clinton Machine"... polichick Apr 2016 #15
I think it's one of the rules in California leftcoastmountains Apr 2016 #16
So Hillary notified her donors... If her campaign was specifically informed about this change, was JudyM Apr 2016 #17
knrnt Rebkeh Apr 2016 #18
some progress... Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #20
This used to be the case RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #21
Kip, is there a link supporting the Democratic Party rule change? mak3cats Apr 2016 #22

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
2. I haven't stopped thinking about this all night.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:31 AM
Apr 2016

And now here it is, almost 4:30 am, wide awake with a sick feeling in my stomach and a raging headache. This country is so corrupt that I honestly don't think there's any chance to change beer off the highway to self destruction that it's on. Boy, do I hope that I'm wrong.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
5. This is jaw-dropping corruption! Insane corruption! Completely out-of-control...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:53 AM
Apr 2016

corruption!

...the New York Democratic Party ....revised the rule for terminating party membership due to inactivity...such that party membership would lapse (and party affiliation changed to, you guessed it, 'Independent' or 'Inactive') if a member did not participate in any two consecutive election cycles, including non-federal, non-state election cycles.

There was little publicity surrounding this rule change. Consequently, millions of Democratic voters who voted last in 2012 (like, say Millennials voting for Obama) had their party affiliations switched without notification. Without notification that is unless you had donated to the Hillary campaign or one of her supporting superPACs in which case you received a kindly email or letter from a Hillary PAC notifying you to reset your party affiliation before the October deadline.
--from the OP (my emphasis)


elleng

(130,936 posts)
6. Yes it is.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:58 AM
Apr 2016

I had not doubt they'd play such games. After all, bush/rover did, so why not.

Sun's coming up. Heading to bed to shorten my misery. (Optimistic, I know.)

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
10. It couldn't be more clear.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:09 AM
Apr 2016

Obama made a deal in 2008 that it's gonna be her turn 8 years later, and that's why they had DWS as chair of the coronation committee. They've been planning for this for years, and we were in denial as to just how far both parties have been corrupted.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. That certainly explains why the changes
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:21 AM
Apr 2016

I have to wonder if the Democrats in other states did this as well. What about Pennsylvania? Someone needs to look into that pronto (though sadly it may be too late).

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
11. What an outrage
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:17 AM
Apr 2016

These are Rove-style tactics that I thought I'd never see in the Democratic party.

Well, looks like the old saying of "I didn't leave the ___ Party, it left me," is beginning to apply to me.


Cher

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. I grew up thinking peope were born democrats and that the party always took back strays
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:05 AM
Apr 2016

That, of course, was a silly thing to think, and life straightened out my understanding.

This rule change is authoritarian and seems just like the back room kaniving behavior we'd expect from DWS & Co. It's a poorly thought out authoritarian application of power to manipulate the primary process.

Voters can be expected to react in a typically human way: they will take offense when party rules disenfranchise them, and they'll distance themselves from the thing that hurt them. Nothing screams for change like broadly recognized mistreatment and disaffection.

That's not a good thing for a party that's already shrinking. It's especially not good for a party where half the voting base seems to think the organization has gone far astray and needs a political revolution's worth of reform.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
19. I agree, and it's going to shrink even more.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

I sure hope DWS and Co do not get away with this. I am furious!

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
12. The number of independent voters in New York is mall compared to other states and
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:47 AM
Apr 2016

in NYC those numbers went down by a few thousand in each borough over the last few months, so I don't think anything could have occured on a mass scale. I did notice the number of inactive Democrats had gone up, however.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
14. Do you have a link to this?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:26 AM
Apr 2016

I'm a committee member, and I wasn't aware of this. Not to say I don't believe it, but I'd like to see when this was enacted. Thanks!

polichick

(37,152 posts)
15. They don't call it The Clinton Machine for nothing - "The Corrupt Clinton Machine"...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

from this day forward.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
16. I think it's one of the rules in California
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:53 AM
Apr 2016

or at least it used to be. I always vote period. No matter how local,
school board stuff, whatever.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
17. So Hillary notified her donors... If her campaign was specifically informed about this change, was
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie's also, I wonder?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
21. This used to be the case
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:58 PM
Apr 2016

if you had not voted in the past presidential race. So they changed it without notifying people. That's insane.
How about the postcard that they mail to you with your voter registration at least once a year? What did it have?
They easily could have done it with these "inactive" voters.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
22. Kip, is there a link supporting the Democratic Party rule change?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:02 PM
Apr 2016

I really want to know when this happened. Thanks!

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