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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:50 PM Apr 2016

Here is how Bernie wins the nomination

H will not get a majority of pledged delegates.

So at the convention the super delegates will decide.

In the meantime we remind the super delegates of what democracy means. What democracy means is; the People.

We don't shout yell and scream at the supers. We tell them how important they are and that we depend on them to ensure democracy wins.

The supers are not dumb. They see us, they see Bernie leading us, and they see the revolution. The revolution is democracy on the rise.

Our job is to help the super delegates feel good about voting for and nominating Bernie.


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Here is how Bernie wins the nomination (Original Post) RobertEarl Apr 2016 OP
We should be kissing the SD's asses, because...? Bernin4U Apr 2016 #1
Because they can give us the nomination? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #2
Win more with honey than vinegar abelenkpe Apr 2016 #3
It shouldn't be about either. Bernin4U Apr 2016 #9
Whoever gets the majority of pledged delegates Matariki Apr 2016 #4
That's not how the rules go RobertEarl Apr 2016 #5
I understand that Robert Matariki Apr 2016 #10
If Bernie wins the majority RobertEarl Apr 2016 #11
I agree. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #8
Or look more closely at the map of the blue states and swing states... Califonz Apr 2016 #6
However .... Autumn Colors Apr 2016 #7
.... RobertEarl Apr 2016 #12

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
1. We should be kissing the SD's asses, because...?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:58 PM
Apr 2016

Who works for whom here?

I heard one on the radio not long ago, gloating about how great it is to be coddled by both sides.

Fuck that.

It's exactly the kind of shit that needs to be shown the door. I'm pissed that I didn't take note of who it was, so I could send them a letter and tell them to grow the fuck up, and stop treating this like it's the high school prom. They should be ashamed.

Edit to add: I agree we should be contacting them. Especially to point out who's clearly the far stronger candidate for the GE, based on everything we've learned from the primaries.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Because they can give us the nomination?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

Or they can ignore us. I find getting people to like the goals I want is the best way to achieve those goals.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
9. It shouldn't be about either.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

They're not flies, and they're not spoiled children. Why treat them as such?

The SDs who are clearly showing themselves to be part of the problem, and not part of the solution, are the ones that we will have no use for. They need to get with the program, or be shown the door.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
4. Whoever gets the majority of pledged delegates
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

should win the nomination. I very much would like that to be Sanders. I don't want the superdelegates to override the will of the people no matter which candidate.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. That's not how the rules go
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:06 PM
Apr 2016

The majority of pledged is just the first step. Then the supers look around and see who really is best for democracy.

Given the way Bernie was totally ignored in the first states that voted and has gained so much since then, requires the supers to consider the momentum and progress being made.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
10. I understand that Robert
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:43 PM
Apr 2016

I'm expressing what I think is fair. If Bernie wins the pledged delegate count but the super delegates give the nomination to Clinton, it would be an understatement to say we will be very very upset. Because I'm not a hypocrite I believe that needs to hold true regardless of which candidate I favor.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. If Bernie wins the majority
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:49 PM
Apr 2016

The supers will be no problem whatsoever if Bernie is ahead.

The count is going to be real close. Really just a few votes separation. This is why the rules incorporate supers.

But if the shoe were on the other foot and H was burning up the election and gaining, I could see how, for the best solution, H would get the super's votes.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
8. I agree.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:37 PM
Apr 2016

But, if Bernie loses, I will no longer consider myself American. I will consider myself a political prisoner.

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
6. Or look more closely at the map of the blue states and swing states...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:19 PM
Apr 2016

Who got more votes and delegates in those states?

Who is more likely to attract moderate Republicans?

Who polls better against the freak the GOP nominates?

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
7. However ....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:23 PM
Apr 2016

Those superdelegates who are elected officials need to have the point made clear to them that they will be primaried if they don't honor the will of their constituents ... in the end, they have freedom to cast their vote as they wish ... just make sure they know that we will not forget how they voted.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. ....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

I don't want to hear one more complaint about us getting super delegates to vote for Bernie. If so few regular citizens won't vote it is the super's responsibility to ensure Bernie gets nominated.

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