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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:09 AM Apr 2016

They think Bernie is destructive

That he should drop out.
That he's set on a "scorched earth" campaign if he continues.

Holy shit are people that dense?

Listen, if he wanted to really fuck up the Democratic Party he would have run as an Independent.
Instead he pushes the party slightly to the Left and they scream like babies. That he's not a "real" Dem, etc

Pretty incredible.

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HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
17. I think the party has been like this for a long long time, but we weren't aware of it
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:35 AM
Apr 2016

In looking at Clinton's wins she won in places where a party mostly focused on urban populations would win.

For decades the policy wonks have been urging the party to aim at demographic of urban areas. Clearly, parts of this primary cycle are working just as planned and just as every democratic voter should expect.

The notion that the party also has control issues and pushes when it needs to, for closed small tent limited "dependable" participation, that's something most people, in their naive support, hadn't noticed and didn't expect.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
3. They're afraid he will have no furher reason to hold back on his criticisms of Hillary
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:16 AM
Apr 2016

Probably with good reason, after the way he and his supporters have been cheated and mistreated since Iowa.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
7. He's a good guy
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

Me not so much...lol.

I'd probably drop out and run as an Independent and lay it all out there.
Then the HRC camp would really know what a scorched earth looks like.

Well maybe I wouldn't but that's how I feel right now considering all the gloating.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
6. Didn't Clinton declare a scorched earth campaign a little while ago?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

why shouldn't Sanders turn up the heat as well?

8. We Need To Transform The Democratic Party
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

The Party needs to get back to its Progressive roots. Clintonism is about moving the Party to the Center-Right. It is about triangulation, not principles.

Bernie has proven that he is authentic, that he has integrity, and will not sell out his positions and principles for quick bucks or cheap votes. Bernie should fight on until the end. Even if he does not get the Nomination, he can hold Hillary's feet to the fire. He can force Progressive concessions from her, at the Convention, and beyond.

Remember, Bernie will still be in the Senate if he does not win the Election. Bernie can lead from the Senate. If Hillary gets into the White House, Bernie can lead the Progressive Opposition from the Senate.

Bernie could also promote more Sanders Democrats and Independents who want to run for Congress and also at the Local and State level. This is a Movement that goes beyond any one person and any one election.

We need people with Integrity and Principles like Bernie has to run for elective office across the Nation. This is not the end of the Sanders Political Revolution. It is just the beginning.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
15. Bernie can go back to the Senate as the leader of the progressive movement
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:29 AM
Apr 2016

Together with Elizabeth Warren they will be a strong force in the party against the establishment.

Bernie put together the progressive caucus in Congress when he was a congressman. I would expect him to do the same thing now if he ends up going back to his old job.

This movement is not going anywhere no matter where Bernie ends up.

20. Progressive Caucus
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

Yes, very good point. I think of Ted Kennedy a lot. He went after the Presidency but never got the Nomination. He stayed in the Senate and got so much accomplished for Liberal Causes. He was very powerful and influential in the Senate. Bernie can continue to be a powerful voice in the Congress.

Bernie's Presidential Campaign has shown that there is a hunger in America for Progressive Politics, especially amongst young people, who are the future of this Country. It is my hope that many of Bernie's supporters get inspired to run for elected office.

We need Sanders Democrats and Independents in the Congress, and also across the whole country, in Local and State positions. This Political Revolution goes beyond any one candidate and any single election. We will continue to fight, and I believe that we will transform America for the better.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. Hillary's got her surrogates talking trash again so she can look above it all.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:28 AM
Apr 2016

David Axelrod ?@davidaxelrod 2h2 hours ago Washington, DC
Minutes after @HillaryClinton talks unity, her spokeswoman calls @SenSanders campaign "destructive." I honestly don't get it. #NYPrimary

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. Axelrod is pulling for Hillary but he is honest and calls her out on her bullshit
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:24 AM
Apr 2016

and I appreciate him for that.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
13. He is destructive.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:21 AM
Apr 2016

He's destructive to a crony capitalism, a corrupt campaign finance system, a rigged economic playing field, imperialism.

We be the wrecking balls.

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