vote totals? When the exit polls are off over 5%, then there is vote manipulation going on. And with NY, there is virtually no early voting.

Our elections need to be monitored by the damned UN.

talk about it if he thinks that's what's going on.

1. The republicans have been doing this stuff for years, literally, and to people of color mostly. Poc have been trying to call attention to it for a long, long time now. Nobody cared. Now suddenly it's a 3 fire alarm? Why now? Bernie has to tread very carefully here. Us supporters should also. I tried to call attention to it here in DU weeks ago. Predictably, no one listened.

2. The bulk of the election rigging is most likely by republican hands, not the Clinton machine. Not that I don't think they'd do it, I'm 100% confident they would. (and some of it could very well be done by democrats) BUT...

They benefited from it in the primary and I don't see them stepping up for the principle. If it threatens to hurt them in the general --- then, and only then, will it get real.

I hope Bernie talks openly about election rigging, I'm with you 1000%, I just hope he's smart about it.

Personally, If I were Bernie I'd consult with and then let black supporters and surrogates take the lead on the conversation, and then back them up. Bernie coming out too strong is only going to look like he's speaking over poc, silencing us. That is the worst thing he could do.

Nina Turner and Ben Jealous are who I'm looking to, since one's a former state senator who did work on voter issues and the other is the former head of the NAACP. They know this stuff.

Did they ask about it?

Of course the Clinton Machine is entrenched in PA and other upcoming states, so there will be more fraud - but Bernie won't want to be written off as another Trump if he talks about it.

Be they R or D. I saw that as a child when a the black area of my town would run a black person for city council, but a white person always won. Generally the black people on the ballot never got a single vote, so they did not even vote for themselves?

I look at Ferguson, MO. Really mostly black community, but all white elected officials. If Ferguson ran a wealthy black man for office, he would win.

No matter the color or the party, it is the rich and powerful that win.

Though SCOTUS was no help at all, that's not local. Southern states with corrupted local leaders are supported by republicans in Congress who have their backs.

It's not just money or party, it's a structural problem created by republicans. They layed the foundationon on a federal level and keep it going for locals of both parties to use at their own discretion.

It's macro and micro.

Probably more Democratic conservatives than Republicans. They are the wealthy in the local area. Be that the big saw mill or whatever the local industry is. They select and provide the money for the county sheriff, county judge and county clerks who over see the elections to run for office. The people who finance their elections are the ones who decide the elections. They are the ones who hire the people who program the voting machines and tabulators.

That's like neglecting to hold the people accountable when they deliberately designed the rigged voting system structurally. You can't just blame the local leaders for using a faulty system, it was created by non local people who intended it to be faulty.

There's no separation of responsibility because it is a structural problem.

Republican-owned voter machines with no transparency to be installed in just about every state without
complaining or blinking and eye, it became clear to me that they are complicit in election fraud. The PTB
decide elections so if they spoke up it would be their turn to get voted out by hook or by crook. We'd be
fools to think Establishment Dems will lift a finger to fix this problem or even acknowledge there is a
problem.

It was an actual report, then at the end they completely dismissed it with,
saying (this is a paraphrase), 'the state election officials said only a few people had voting problems'.

The corruption & fraud is such an issue!

and then dismiss it just as the ptb insist.

The revolution will not be televised - and will not involve working within the corrupt system, but going around it.

And unless the general public uses deeper learning for issues and current events, all they have is the face of the M$M. And they don't know the massive amounts of accurate information they are missing.

If it were not for the Internet, we all would be in the dark.