an oligarchy, the better off we will be. We can make our personal plans that way knowing that unless you are extremely wealthy or work for one, you are nothing. People have lived under those political systems and most of the world still does. You learn to adjust. Just because you get a raise at work in most of the world means that you can save it. In the US a new job or a raise means a new car or house.

If they realized this, if a majority of even democratic voters realized what a fraud our government is, the primary would be a walkway victory for Sanders.

The reality is that most people are ignorant and indifferent.

It will be a huge win for Wall Street and the war industry.

Honestly, unless Madame President doesn't take immediate dramatic leadership on this issue, she will go down as the worst president ever as the planet's catastrophes snowball.

Her inaction will doom her legacy permanently. Doom us too but that was probably already written into the cards.

she will immediately pass TPP, fracking, etc and hand the keys to whatever is left of the country to private industry. You know, the "best and brightest" who "know how to get things done". The good people and real constituents that, you know, actually *earn* their money (do I really need ?)

Her short term vision is in perfect sync with the mentality of the wallstreet/corporate "growth" models. The same group that is fundamentally unable to think long term, partnership, and sustainability.

It will be a massive waste as they continue to try to extract the last $$ from a sinking ship. Even turning that around (when people start waking up) will take massive resources that could/should be spent trying to think and react to long term issues.


The good thing is that Bernie has awakened millions of people to another way, and let them know OTHERS feel the same way. It's darkest before the dawn and all that....

the "Vast Right wing conspiracy" enough to fuck them all up, and not get much of the Oligarchs agenda accomplished.

Don't forget... some more wars, also.

are her true buddies - the wallstreet crowd, goldman, etc

She'll probably enjoy batting the GOP around as clowns they are. One thing for sure is we'll see another explosion of media/anti-clinton etc just like CNN was created. Such a waste of money brains talent vs the real problems.

Climate change will be just another "business opportunity"....

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For example, everybody who is interested in health care should read this.

http://www.italaw.com/sites/default/files/case-documents/italaw3207.pdf

I have started Zinn's "A People's History of the US" and also "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Kline, but can't finish them. Too hard on my psyche.

its terrifying

good book yet.

And we are on our way to becoming a third rate country.
Go to Europe, and see what it's like there. People are happier, their infrastructure is great, they have healthcare.
Yet they love America, why, I don't know.
Apparently they do not see what is going on here.

I agree with you about Europeans seeming to be a lot happier. Like people in the US maybe 30 years ago.

Republicans will dig themselves into a deeper lethargy, committees to investigate and/or impeach will dominate the evening news and waste even more of our tax dollars, far right losers will still have an evil presence in the WH to blame their shortcomings on, and we will never get the Supreme Court functioning again.

Hell is coming to breakfast.

Bernie has awakened the sleeping giant. The fact that he has come so far in such a short time is a feat in itself. I think, if the primaries were just starting today, he would easily take the nomination.

The majority of people are finally aware of the inequalities in our system and the power the corporations yield over politics and policy.

If we have to settle for the lesser of the two evils now, so be it. Next time around, I think we'll be in a much stronger position to get a true liberal elected.

I haven't given up completely this election. I have yet to vote, and Bernie has for years been my favorite politician--I can't wait to cast my vote. But, if we don't win, I don't believe it will be a defeat. It is just the beginning.

and his family going up against the Rich Fat Cats that will literally do anything to win. They don't lose.

We keep on supporting Sanders Democrats for national and state and local office.

And the thought of Slick Willy in the WH again...

It has become a matter of normal procedure to use a variety of options to rig elections and short of the UN coming in as if we were a third world country, our votes are mostly for show and are manipulated as needed.

One assumes not for the benefit of any one party, else the party harmed by it would be digging hip deep in the large mound of evidence available that could be used to end it.

No, it is likely part of a larger, more important level of power, considering we are living in a global gilded age, I conclude perhaps larger players than mere politicians (basically hired help at this point) are moving the chess pieces as best suit them at any given time. They are I believe using that power a bit too obviously and a bit too noticeably for them to avoid repercussions to such hubris. They are over-reacting to a popular uprising against (the hired help) politicians which harm and have harmed enough of the population that are actually rising up as best they can, unfortunately they simply still lack the knowledge just yet to realize that it may not be possible politically within the establishment as it currently stands (in both parties). To do so

I have followed the research into the corruption of our election system since 2000 (there are many good books by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, among others that have shown the many ways it has, and is done, and their research is quite convincing)

There are old fashioned ways to effect outcomes, but since at least 2004 they have really perfected the art of using technology to achieve pretty much any outcome they wish and along with more technical means - they still use caging, targeted disenfranchisement and voter purges (rather effectively in NYS), old fashioned as they may be they are as yet still quite effective.

My conclusion, is that after the reality sets in that working within the establishment political systems, that are currently in a not so subtle state of realignment within each party towards corporate (global neo-liberal goals) at all costs. The goal that actually unite (disregard the puppet show) the two separate parties - this hubris and obvious machinations against the true will of the majority of the citizens, will eventually cause some very unpredictable outcomes, among those may include the splitting both of the parties and/or an "awakening" that hopefully will lead to a new paradigm more aligned with the near entirety of that which the people want.

If not, we are looking at a fully Corporate Right Wing Party that ignores our wishes, playing tag with a Fascist Corporate Right Wing Party that also ignores our wishes, collectively these two purchased political parties can and will lead us to our own extinction, and that of many other species, because quarterly profits and the pursuit of wealth at all cost does not leave room for environmental reparations on either the scale, or within an adequate time frame to avoid such a fate.


Personally, I hope for what I have often refereed to as "an awakening" - leading to new leadership, not among the parties as they exist now (both being lost causes) but rather under newly formed parties, born of the people's well polled and clear wishes after such hubris leads to splits, and then the deaths of the parties that are no longer serving their intended purpose.

Or unlikely as it now appears, with ever decreasing hope, a newly reformed Democratic party, that is reborn to a time before the Corporate "intellectual leveraged buyout" as envisioned by Al From and Bill Clinton and described in From's book in those terms

Call me a madman, or more kindly perhaps, Cassandra.

SS and H. Clinton will be forced to sign it and Goldman-Sachs will be happy their investment pays off.

Remember when Bill was "forced" to sign the repeal of Glass-Steagall?

>We will forever be just workers making the owners of this country filthy rich.


Within 20-30 years machines will do virtually all of what we today consider to be "work". people and all their future descendants, will be living off of their savings whatever they can save now.

Bedrock civil rights such as habeus corpus will continue to be ignored and eroded. Covert military operations around the world will continue to increase in number. Republicans will continue to dominate Washington, and Democrats will continue to mewl on about how there's nothing they can do to stop them.

Which means we'll lose net neutrality.

There's so much at stake with THIS primary. Not next primary.

BILL encouraged Trump to get involved with GOP. It doesn't matter if it's Hillary or Trump at the desk. It will be the same staff and cabinet.

BILL ENCOURAGED TRUMP TO GET INVOLVED WITH GOP.

when there is more of a need.