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Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:14 PM Apr 2016

A message for my fellow Bernie supporters

We knew this was going to be a David v Goliath type of fight. The Clinton machine has been preparing for this election for twenty years.

Remember that.

They have had 20 years to lay the foundation, build infrastructure, do the research, cross every T, dot every I and hire an army of people to make the coronation happen. Not to mention the networking, favor swapping and other behind-the-scenes work of the real world. They reached out to disenfranchised people and embraced them warmly, inauthentically, but warmly. They made a lot of people feel like they mattered for once, that we counted. They are no longer invisible and going after her is only going to trigger a protective instinct. She is trusted to follow through on her promises to her supporters because following through, at this time, benefits her. People know this and they trust her nasty chess playing to get it done. A lot of people, especially in my generation, don't care about nasty chess playing as long as things get done. They don't care about her character because in the "real world," character doesn't matter.

This was never going to be a fair election, but we are putting up one hell of a fight. I'm still in it and will be until Bernie says otherwise. So, if you believe in the principles of why we must have President Sanders, stick with it.

Who's with me?

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A message for my fellow Bernie supporters (Original Post) Rebkeh Apr 2016 OP
I'm in... KansDem Apr 2016 #1
I'm in. Half-Century Man Apr 2016 #2
You probably dont realize this, but one part of what you said has been pursued INTERNATIONALLY Baobab Apr 2016 #91
I'm in. jhart3333 Apr 2016 #3
Count me in Rebkeh. 200%. It has been a set up from the start Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #4
I am eom LiberalElite Apr 2016 #5
of course I'm in nt retrowire Apr 2016 #6
I am DEFINITELY in. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #7
All. The. Way. Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #8
In! tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #9
Me. snot Apr 2016 #10
Definitely. Especially after the dirty tricks and voter disenfranchisement peacebird Apr 2016 #11
Don't forget the 2008 New York results LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #12
Right here sarge43 Apr 2016 #13
Definitely. I am with Bernie. He is our candidate. He belongs to us the people. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #14
Absolutely! eom BerninInBama Apr 2016 #15
Definitely me!! Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #16
Yes, I am. (eom) eomer Apr 2016 #17
I'm in. MissDeeds Apr 2016 #18
I'm In.. monmouth4 Apr 2016 #19
All in Jennylynn Apr 2016 #20
in glinda Apr 2016 #21
I'm with you til the end, my berner-of-arms. desmiller Apr 2016 #22
I'm all in stage left Apr 2016 #23
I am in and also in for building a permanent movement. wilsonbooks Apr 2016 #24
you got that right wilsonbooks greymouse Apr 2016 #76
My sentiments exactly! Eom Jubilant18 Apr 2016 #85
All In DI Freighter Watcher Apr 2016 #25
.... nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #26
I'm in! redwitch Apr 2016 #27
yep flor-de-jasmim Apr 2016 #28
All in. It's important to understand that our fight against the culture of corruption in our rhett o rick Apr 2016 #29
Count me in!! jillan Apr 2016 #30
David vs Goliath indeed! Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #31
#WeWillNotFallInLine dana_b Apr 2016 #32
I will vote for the candidate who best represents me... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #33
In to the end and beyond Mike__M Apr 2016 #34
A message to my fellow.. Mesee Apr 2016 #35
In for Bernie. In for integrity & change. Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #36
Of course, I am in. sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #37
In and not goin' no damn where. nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #38
Passionate Progressive swilton Apr 2016 #39
With you! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #40
Still here! GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #41
Oh yes! This is just getting good!! wendylaroux Apr 2016 #42
I'm in! pacalo Apr 2016 #43
In it for the duration. nt shanti Apr 2016 #44
I've waited my entire life... TeeYiYi Apr 2016 #45
Hell yeah Little_Wing Apr 2016 #46
Check Agony Apr 2016 #47
Oh yes, til Bernie says he's out, I'm in nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #48
Yep mahina Apr 2016 #49
I'm in!! ralps Apr 2016 #50
Count me in. pangaia Apr 2016 #51
Damn straight!!! 4nic8em Apr 2016 #52
Damn Right I'm In! RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #53
Oh yeah! Until every vote is counted. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #54
I'm all in. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #55
Definitely! Called Pennsylvania voters tonight. nt slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #56
I am in it to win it awake Apr 2016 #57
What else would I do? Bubzer Apr 2016 #58
You funny! Rockyj Apr 2016 #84
Present and Accounted For! Jack Bone Apr 2016 #59
We, the People will ultimately prevail. wundermaus Apr 2016 #60
Right with you. Maryland needs a lot of help! JudyM Apr 2016 #61
I'm still in it - TY, Rebkeh! ebayfool Apr 2016 #62
Oh! MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #63
Right here! CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #64
I'm in it to win it! virgdem Apr 2016 #65
I'm with you malokvale77 Apr 2016 #66
We may have lost one battle but the war for The People goes forward. libdem4life Apr 2016 #67
And long after the election. We can't let this opportunity for so many GENUINE progressives DebJ Apr 2016 #68
I'm in. Kittycat Apr 2016 #69
Let's do it! Let's get corruption out, no matter what! Joob Apr 2016 #70
I'm in! ALittleBirdie Apr 2016 #71
All in!! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #72
I'm all in! me b zola Apr 2016 #73
I'm in until they manage to get rid of me, even if he endorses Clinton. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #74
#BernieOrBust greymouse Apr 2016 #75
I'm in but they are rigging it for Clinton. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #77
We can't win unless we keep fighting!! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #78
I'm in all the way to the convention floor. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #79
A message for my fellow Bernie supporters jmousso75 Apr 2016 #80
No one but sanders gets my vote. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2016 #81
Here is the fight we are in for jeepers Apr 2016 #82
Bernie or Bust! Yuugal Apr 2016 #83
K&R jwirr Apr 2016 #86
I want him to take it all the way to the convention senz Apr 2016 #87
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #88
Rebkeh Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #89
Bringing Up The Rear With My Head Down corbettkroehler Apr 2016 #90

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
2. I'm in.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

What ever we do, remember to vote down ticket.
Replace 3d wayers with progressive Democrats whenever possible.

Hold our elected public servants accountable for their actions, on and off the job.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
91. You probably dont realize this, but one part of what you said has been pursued INTERNATIONALLY
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:11 AM
Apr 2016

In a way which is going to play out really horribly for Americans.


>They reached out to disenfranchised people and embraced them warmly, inauthentically, but warmly. They made a lot of people feel like they mattered for once, that we counted. They are no longer invisible and going after her is only going to trigger a protective instinct. She is trusted to follow through on her promises to her supporters because following through, at this time, benefits her. People know this and they trust her nasty chess playing to get it done. A lot of people, especially in my generation, don't care about nasty chess playing as long as things get done. They don't care about her character because in the "real world," character doesn't matter.


They reached out to the Third World and promised them Americans (and other nations) jobs!

Please people who read this acknowledge that you see this in a comment- acknowledge that you read the above.

I am not kidding, its called GATS Mode Four, and more recently, TiSA and TTIP also has these provisions. Also now India is trying to set up a Trade Facilitation Agreement on services.

So people should know, we're in for a very rough ride if we endorse this program without knowing it.

She is totally not what she pretends to be. Shes the exact opposite.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
4. Count me in Rebkeh. 200%. It has been a set up from the start
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

collusion between the DNC and Clinton Camp. I don't know which generation is yours but I am a boomer and have voted since 72. I am fed up but have not lost the faith. Thanks for your thread.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
12. Don't forget the 2008 New York results
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016


We all know that everyone else was supposed to quit the race as the NY winner was the one selected by God.

stage left

(2,962 posts)
23. I'm all in
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016

All the way. To me, Global Climate change is the most pressin issue we face. And Bernie's the only one who's taking that seriously.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. All in. It's important to understand that our fight against the culture of corruption in our
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

government that some here embrace. I am in to the convention and beyond. If Clinton wins, I will be looking for a primary challenger for 2020. 50,000,000 in poverty and some here can turn their backs. We must change that.

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
31. David vs Goliath indeed!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:13 PM
Apr 2016

I am so proud of Bernie and Jane for taking on the machine.
Other than MOM, who else was willing to get into the fray?
A 74 year old Jew Dem Socialist from little ole Vermont with practically zero establishment support.
He has done a great job of raising so many important issues.
I'm so proud to have voted for him.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
33. I will vote for the candidate who best represents me...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

I am a registered Democrat and there is only one Democrat running for president and that is Senator Sanders.

If anybody other than Sanders wins the presidency, I am afraid America will be locked into oligarchy...

Mesee

(42 posts)
35. A message to my fellow..
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

I intend to go till the Fat Lady sings. You see my Grandma was the Fat Lady in the Circus. She whispers in my ear, All the way.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
36. In for Bernie. In for integrity & change.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

Can not give any support to Cheat or Deceit.
Never again
Thanks for your post. 🐦.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
45. I've waited my entire life...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

...to vote for someone like Bernie Sanders.

We're just getting started. Go Bernie!

TYY FEEL.THE.BERN.

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
46. Hell yeah
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016

Definitely not willing or able to hold my nose at this point.

Bring it on, oh Lady of the Slings and Arrows. California is ready to RUMBLE.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
47. Check
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:39 PM
Apr 2016

I am in until I change the Democratic Party into a party that doesn't just pretend to be a big tent party.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
66. I'm with you
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:34 AM
Apr 2016

I'm with my family, friends and community.

I'm with Bernie.

I will never be with the Clinton elitists.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
68. And long after the election. We can't let this opportunity for so many GENUINE progressives
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:16 AM
Apr 2016

to make their voices heard, and then drop the ball. The Arc of the moral universe is looonnngggg, and we all have to stay right there pointing it towards justice.

America is waking up. We can't let her slumber ever again.

I just came from a Bruce Springsteen concert in Baltimore. I always listen for just one song (hubby is the Springsteen fan, hard core all the way). He didn't play it tonight, but now you can.

This is who we are. This song gives me goosebumps. I never work for progressive values and feel that I am alone, and this song expresses that well. But then, I was born in DC and grew up just over the line in Maryland, and spent my childhood in the 1960s in the family station wagon wending my way through an infinite series of protests (so in my formative years, I learned that standing up and speaking up en masse IS democracy), watched DC burn in the riots in 69 from my friend's back porch. In the 70s I lived with the brutish comments of male peers in the work force, saying right to my face "What are you doing here? You're a woman" ... and then grabbing me as they felt the impulse and all other kinds of indiginities, and I held on. And now my daughter is in what was once a male dominated environment, a high-paying job that requires vigorous physical stamina and athletic abilities as well as smarts and cunning.... because in the 70s, we said hell no get out of my way Jack..though I'd love to have the 30 percent of pay I was denied for 40 years of working....

Progressiveness is in my history, my heart, my soul, that part of my consciousness that feels the larger consciousness of human striving throughout human history that echoes and lives on in another plane.

Give up? I don't think I can even after I'm gone from this plane.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
74. I'm in until they manage to get rid of me, even if he endorses Clinton.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

We need to prepare. I'm tired, I'm fuckin' exhausted; but I'm in. Better to fall apart gripping the spear than to languish in a cell after selling my soul.

greymouse

(872 posts)
75. #BernieOrBust
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016

I'm in until (1) Bernie gets the nomination and on to the general, (2) Bernie does not get the nomination and I write him in in the general and he gets elected possibly through the electoral college, or (3) Bernie does not get the nomination and I write him in in the general and he does not get elected and I hope a third party forms and I will help it.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
79. I'm in all the way to the convention floor.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

And then I'll fight in person.

We take over the party with 1000s of small battles!

Don't let them discourage us because the 1000s of cuts....

 

jmousso75

(71 posts)
80. A message for my fellow Bernie supporters
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

I'm in till the end. In fact, sending another contribution today.

jeepers

(314 posts)
82. Here is the fight we are in for
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

If Bernie decides to run under the banner of a different political party he would have to run
as a republican, a libertarian or as a green to have enough ballot access in the separate states to win the 270 electoral votes needed to win the Presidency. On top of that there are 45 state that have poor loser laws and though those laws have not been enforced in 43 states in presidential elections they are on the books

Both the Ds and the Rs have access to the ballot in 50 states and DC. The libertarians are ballot qualified in 37 states and the greens are qualified to run in 21 states. One other party is qualified to run in 14 states the rest of the parties qualified in a single digit number of states.

If Bernie wants to run as an independent without party affiliation he would have to gather signatures and petition each state
separately. An estimated 900,000 signatures would be required to be qualified to run in all 50 states and and DC. This is what Perot did in 92. The advantage here is getting your name placed on the ballot.

If Bernie runs as a write in candidate again without party affiliation his name will not appear on the ballot and there are seven states he is not allowed to run in, Hi, Okla, SD, La ,Ark, Nv,and SC, 6 states require no advance paperwork and the other 37 states require advance filing of a statement and an affidavit of to what I can see are intent and eligibility. As a write in Bernie would have access to 494 electors.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates#Requirements_for_write-in_candidates

 

Yuugal

(2,281 posts)
83. Bernie or Bust!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

I don't vote for frackers and warmongers beholden to big pharma and wall-street.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
87. I want him to take it all the way to the convention
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:15 AM
Apr 2016

because he's not doing this for himself; he's doing it for us.

Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
90. Bringing Up The Rear With My Head Down
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

Fingers and toes crossed! I was born in Pennsylvania and am cautiously optimistic. The real question will be whether the governor tolerates what Cuomo did with disenfranchisement.

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