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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:55 PM Apr 2016

I'm having an idea and need your input....

I posted this in grasswire's thread but was afraid it wouldn't be seen. Once my lightbulb goes off, my mind starts racing....

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How about we look to greener pastures?

I was thinking we can take this to facebook. We can start a private group that new members have to be approved to join.
We will have the freedom to say what we want without being censored.
No matter what happens to Bernie's presidential campaign, the movement is not going anywhere.
We can call ourselves the Birdiecrats - or whatever we decide. We can vote on a new name AND make sure all the votes get counted

I'm sure most of you are on facebook.
Yes, there is also JPR but this can be in addition to that website & everyone that's over there should be invited to join our facebook group. Which would be so nice since several people we care about are not coming back here.

I'm not advocating leaving DU at all. This DU Bernie group will still be here. Those of you who enjoy the debate in GDP, it will still be there, and for those that come around and support Hillary if she is the nominee in the GE, DU will be more important than ever.

What I am advocating for is a new Bernie Group at a different setting where we can freely discuss our concerns with Hillary, freely chose to be Bernie or Bust, share Bernie news, photos, etc. without being scrutinized, alerted on, hidden or kicked out.


It would be nice to regain our freedom of speech. I never cared much for walking on eggshells. And I am not ready to be quiet about Bernie.

Thoughts?

(leaving for a few hours, but will check back in later and see if there is any interest )

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I'm having an idea and need your input.... (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
Call it, jillian villager Apr 2016 #1
I'm in. eom BerninInBama Apr 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #3
There is JPR LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #4
yes, I'm there now too dana_b Apr 2016 #5
I read JPR several times a week oldandhappy Apr 2016 #27
Me, too... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #40
JPR? n/t dana_b Apr 2016 #6
Jackpine Radicals MissDeeds Apr 2016 #8
Everybody should move over there! octoberlib Apr 2016 #11
Variety is good Baobab Apr 2016 #21
Yeah, sorry. I meant would jillian consider dana_b Apr 2016 #16
I have a lot of questions about JPR. When I go over there, like last nite for example jillan Apr 2016 #29
There's a thousand + registered members at JPR riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #31
Can you send me a message and tell me where? I went there last nite looking for a place jillan Apr 2016 #34
The All Things Bernie forum gets the most hits riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #37
whats new lmbradford Apr 2016 #38
I'm not on facebook MissDeeds Apr 2016 #7
No. I also joined for about a day, some years ago, then bailed. winter is coming Apr 2016 #10
I don't do Facebook. Ino Apr 2016 #13
I love it! MissDeeds Apr 2016 #14
Was a Farmville addict for awhile. ladyfinger Apr 2016 #39
OMG!!! noamnety Apr 2016 #19
Not a Fan of Facebook noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #23
You can always set up a 2nd fb account. I have one for friends, fam, people I network with. jillan Apr 2016 #30
For me, that place is Youtube. Gregorian Apr 2016 #9
Whatever you want to do is fine with me but I do find that JPR is difficult, at least for me, to monmouth4 Apr 2016 #12
Me too. I can't find discussions. It's frustrating. jillan Apr 2016 #32
This sounds great to me as I'm already on Facebook! I'm in. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #15
I don't understand the need for facebook in addtion to JPR – snot Apr 2016 #17
I'm in! n/t Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #18
some of us will not do facebook. Besides that, having too many sites bbgrunt Apr 2016 #20
I'm kind of thinking fb instead of here - we sure seem to be getting a lot of threads locked & jillan Apr 2016 #33
I'm guessing you're looking for something less restrictive w/ better format than JPR jhart3333 Apr 2016 #22
I don't think we should dilute our efforts with more sites riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #36
I'm reccing for others... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #24
Ugh ... no, I quit Facebook Autumn Colors Apr 2016 #25
Yes Please!!!! (Nt) CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #26
I'm in for the idea. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #28
I'm dropped Facebook long ago but you all should go for it. nm floriduck Apr 2016 #35
This Citizen Will Not Do Facebook cantbeserious Apr 2016 #41
Not facebook. Not bernie-centric (self-limiting). delrem Apr 2016 #42

Response to jillan (Original post)

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
27. I read JPR several times a week
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

Have had a bumpy learning experience in terms of using it. Not major. Just a comment.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
40. Me, too...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

Though, I'm doing Sanders campaign stuff, so I'm maxed out until after PA's primary.

JPR is a great place. Everyone to love is there, heh-heh.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
21. Variety is good
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

Unless I was missing something, when i checked it out i wasn't so impressed.

people also should avoid sites like facebook, reddit for reasons which should be obvious to intelligent people.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
29. I have a lot of questions about JPR. When I go over there, like last nite for example
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:53 PM
Apr 2016

there were no posts. Well there were a couple, but no responses.

Where is the discussion, the back and forth?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
31. There's a thousand + registered members at JPR
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

Vs the 150k + here at DU.

The more people sign up and participate the faster the dialogue will flow.

Come be a part of it! There are forums that get the same level of convo as here. ..

jillan

(39,451 posts)
34. Can you send me a message and tell me where? I went there last nite looking for a place
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:04 PM
Apr 2016

to go vent about the election and couldn't find any discussion.

I saw a couple of threads with no comments.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
37. The All Things Bernie forum gets the most hits
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

Good luck!

That forum will be as good or dead as we make it

lmbradford

(517 posts)
38. whats new
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

If you go to the blue square in the upper right hand corner, click it and then click whats new. Thats where I join in discussion threads. Im too confused by all the other forums and stuff and I cant find anything usually except in the Whats New Thread.

Just my two cents.....as a confused JPR newbie.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
7. I'm not on facebook
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

I was on for about 36 hours once and it was a nightmare, so I closed it down never to return. I would have had to block or de-friend half of my family and in-laws to make it palatable. Of course by doing that, it would have set off a firestorm, so....

Anyone else not on FB, or am I the only one?

Can't we just hang out at JRP or find another venue?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
10. No. I also joined for about a day, some years ago, then bailed.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:21 PM
Apr 2016

OTOH, I won't get pissed off if that's what y'all want to do.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
13. I don't do Facebook.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

I had an acct for a while. I had no idea what to do with it, so I didn't go there often.

Then people were leaving messages on my page (family, customers), and I was afraid they'd be offended that I didn't reply.

Then people started sending me goats from the Facebook Farm or something, and I felt beholden to send them something back. Would a chicken do... or did it need to be something at least as large as a goat? I didn't know the goat protocol!

So I cancelled the acct

 

ladyfinger

(8 posts)
39. Was a Farmville addict for awhile.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

Now I'm playing Tasty Tales after not playing FB games for awhile.

It's a foodie version of Candy Crush.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
19. OMG!!!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:04 PM
Apr 2016

I thought I was the only one that tried facebook and backed away from it almost immediately because I didn't want everyone in my life (students, family, political activists) getting all involved with each other, and didn't want to have to deny friend requests ... the whole thing just seemed like a mess.

Maybe Bernie people really ARE my soul mates!

jillan

(39,451 posts)
30. You can always set up a 2nd fb account. I have one for friends, fam, people I network with.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:59 PM
Apr 2016

And the other I use just for politics to sign onto Huffington Post and other places.
I have NO friends on that account - on purpose.

Plus this group would be private, people could not read what we write.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
9. For me, that place is Youtube.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

That's how we got Bernie on TYT. We even posted in chat the questions to be asked. We didn't get them all, but most. That's where the Democracy Spring live feed was going. There's a movement, but it ain't on this forum.

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
12. Whatever you want to do is fine with me but I do find that JPR is difficult, at least for me, to
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

navigate. I'm already on FB so that would be no prob..

snot

(10,530 posts)
17. I don't understand the need for facebook in addtion to JPR –
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

then there's yet another place to post and check.

Plus I don't like facebook – it's structured for the benefit of those who want to spy on us, not for us (e.g., no decent search function).

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
20. some of us will not do facebook. Besides that, having too many sites
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:22 PM
Apr 2016

dilutes the impact of the group. I think we should all do everything possible to help the sites already out there like jpr.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
33. I'm kind of thinking fb instead of here - we sure seem to be getting a lot of threads locked &
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

posts hidden lately.

Just want a place to go and let my hair down and not worry that some Hillary supporter is going to alert on my posts.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
22. I'm guessing you're looking for something less restrictive w/ better format than JPR
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

I've been thinking about building something like that to support progressives. I'd like to put together a few good ideas; news posts(DU), diaries(DKOS), listener supported(KPFA), comment disemvowelling(XKCD) and/or fading(Hacker News).

Could start real simple and build up as we go.

What do you think?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
36. I don't think we should dilute our efforts with more sites
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:06 PM
Apr 2016

DKOS purged members already have a fairly brisk counter site operating. We do as well with JPR.

We need to keep the focus tight.

Can you help the JPR folks make it more user friendly?

FWIW, after a couple days, it's format is 110% okay for this techno challenged oldster...

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
24. I'm reccing for others...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

but I will not do facebook.

My daughter and grandchildren, however are members of a couple Bernie FB pages. They shut down trolls quickly.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
42. Not facebook. Not bernie-centric (self-limiting).
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:24 AM
Apr 2016

Must include input from many other progressive forums, to create a structure at least loosely based on a platform. There has to be some form of democratic (user input) moderation of how that platform is worded, how it is specific, how it is less specific. Again, can't be Sanders-centric, or DU-centric.

Cannot be privately owned.
Profits cannot accrue to individuals, or private interests (else it'll be bought out the moment it is viable).

There has to be a gathering outside the DU "box".

eta: JPR a good model that might grow into it. But: it is Sanders-centric and 2016-primary-oriented and DU-oriented from the outset, so is self limiting.

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