Bernie Sanders

greymouse

(872 posts) Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:59 AM Apr 2016

Think the voters choose the pledged delegates in RI? Think again.

http://www.ridemocrats.org/assets/downloads/news/20160125-president-preference-primary-update.pdf

"At the Convention, Rhode Island will have 33 delegates and two alternates: 15 will be elected at the Presidential Preference Primary on April 26, 2016; 9 (at large & PLEO delegates) will be selected by the State Committee at a May/ June meeting; and the remaining 9 appointed by virtue of their position in the Party."

The state committee is reportedly stacked with Clinton supporters.

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Think the voters choose the pledged delegates in RI? Think again. (Original Post) greymouse Apr 2016 OP

This is why RI is actually more voter repressive than even NY! Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #1

IOW, 15 delegates are elected, 18 are purchased. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #2

wtf??????????? restorefreedom Apr 2016 #3

Yes, the Democratic Party sends longtime members to the convention splat Apr 2016 #4

The more they overplay their hand the quicker people will realize how rigged and undemocratic the GoneFishin Apr 2016 #5

The outrage about this is like, "What do you mean I'm going to die someday?" splat Apr 2016 #6

of course it's corrupt greymouse Apr 2016 #7

Corrupt because you say so? The parties are clubs, not institutions splat Apr 2016 #8

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)

1. This is why RI is actually more voter repressive than even NY!

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:08 AM

Apr 2016

Rhode Island, the most undemocratic state in the union.

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

2. IOW, 15 delegates are elected, 18 are purchased.

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:11 AM

Apr 2016

Besides giving a voice to liberals and progressives who have been ignored by the Democratic Party for 30 years, Sanders campaign has also been valuable in shining a light on how badly the nominating process has been corrupted. It's as much rigged as the 1968 Primary was. I think there will be a lot of people leaving the party in disgust, as its unlikely those in power will institute any reforms that threaten their power and access to corporate money.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

3. wtf???????????

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:14 AM

Apr 2016

how many more states will be corrupted before something is done?

splat

(2,294 posts)

4. Yes, the Democratic Party sends longtime members to the convention

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:14 AM

Apr 2016

This is their show.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/wild-parties-in-defense-of-political-factions

A political party is not an institution of democratic government. A political party is an instrument of democratic government. An institution of democracy has an obligation to be democratic. But an instrument of democracy can take whatever form it wants. Lobbyists, pressure groups, and the free press—a political party is more like any of these than it is like a branch of government. We can form a political party whose sole end is to promote the candidacy of Lyndon LaRouche or Captain Kangaroo or whomever we want, just as we can run a newspaper that makes comically ill-reasoned endorsements of obviously unfit candidates. No one might join the party, as no one might read the paper. But a political party it would be. Parties make up their own rules to suit themselves, as papers may choose their candidates to please their publisher. Generally, the way we choose convention delegates has become more democratic in recent years, but, in the wake of several lopsided losses, the Democratic Party decided that it ought to have adult supervision in place at its conventions, and that some people who had given their working lives to the Party should be part of it.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)

5. The more they overplay their hand the quicker people will realize how rigged and undemocratic the

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:29 AM

Apr 2016

Party really is. So I hope they keep crossing the line.

This shit can't be kept in the shadows any longer, due to the internet. And people won't put up with it forever. Something is going to give.

splat

(2,294 posts)

6. The outrage about this is like, "What do you mean I'm going to die someday?"

Reply to greymouse (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:41 AM

Apr 2016

Or like, "How dare he/she turn me down?."

It's not corrupt, it's just not how you would wish it to be. (In this instance.)

Play it as it lays.

greymouse

(872 posts)

7. of course it's corrupt

Reply to splat (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:58 AM

Apr 2016

On what planet do you live?

splat

(2,294 posts)

8. Corrupt because you say so? The parties are clubs, not institutions

Reply to greymouse (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:55 AM

Apr 2016

Political parties can make their own rules, support their own choices and reward longterm members. Just like the VFW post or the Boy Scouts or your local paper. (Where no one expects readers to determine editorial policy or endorsements.)

This is basic civics. I live the world as it is, not as you would wish it to be.

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