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A question for this group... (Original Post) Uben Apr 2016 OP
Which policies? Obama is corporate, Hillary is corporate, Bernie is not. djean111 Apr 2016 #1
I can't add anything to that. You covered it. Autumn Apr 2016 #2
Perfect. n/t MuseRider Apr 2016 #3
Fair enough.... Uben Apr 2016 #4
Okay wait Rebkeh Apr 2016 #5
Not only Old Codger Apr 2016 #6
Thanks for your responses... Uben Apr 2016 #7
President Obama was the best choice at that time. Half-Century Man Apr 2016 #8
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Which policies? Obama is corporate, Hillary is corporate, Bernie is not.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

I would prefer Single payer to the ACA, as the ACA now stands. I hate Fast Track, and the TPP and TTIP. I do not subscribe to the "Obama legacy" thing - he was president, he did some stuff that I liked, he did stuff I did not like. No reason for it to be enshrined or anything like that.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
4. Fair enough....
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

..I kinda feel the same way. Not so sure Obama should be labeled a corporatist. The ACA was more of a compromise to get SOMETHING done, as opposed to doing nothing, IMO.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
5. Okay wait
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

As far as I'm concerned, it is Bernie that is the natural progression of Obama's presidency. Many disagree, but some of the reasons I voted for Obama are the same reasons I voted for Bernie.

As for policies, I prefer structural change and Clinton is invested in keeping the structure exactly the way it is.

Also, in broader terms, Obama brings empathy to the White House, for once. Bernie would as well.

I have zero confidence in a Clinton administration to do so.

On edit: in 2008, there was no candidate promoting structural change, if Obama were to run now, I would not vote for him. The time then was right, the time now is different.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
6. Not only
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

Do I think she will perpetuate Obama's policies but I think she will double down on them and give in even more ...She is actually a DINO in every sense of the meaning...

Uben

(7,719 posts)
7. Thanks for your responses...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

...there were some very good answers. I am a strong advocate of Obama. When he was elected, the market was down to around 6000, and now it is nearly triple that (not that I own any stocks). Unemployment was skyrocketing, now it's lower than it has been in 43 yrs! I remember the talking heads saying it would take at least ten years for things to return to some normality...Obama did it in 8. HAs he been perfect? Hell no....but no one is.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
8. President Obama was the best choice at that time.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

He was constrained by the blatant racism of the republicans in congress. Hampered by the gross negligence of DWS running the Democratic Party (into the ground). Might have real legacy problems from his first SOS apparently running somewhat fast and free.
There hadn't been an occupy moment, a Snowden leak, a Manning leak, a Congressional clusterfuck of 6+years to build on and shape public opinion.

The situation is completely different, so continuing in a straight line as though nothing was wrong will fail; catastrophically fail.

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