Bernie Sanders
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The thing these people fail to understand is that every cheat, every lie, and this kind of propaganda DON'T demoralize Sanders voters it fuels them forward. This is more of the same crap that they're railing against in the first place. The revolution is on. There's no going back.NEW YORK After Hillary Clinton picked up a decisive win in New York's presidential primary on Tuesday evening, her allies were quick to send a message to rival Bernie Sanders: Its over.
They say the win puts Clinton in the homestretch and well on her way to clinching the Democratic nomination, leaving no path for Sanders.
The voters have spoken, said Eric Jotkoff, a Democratic consultant who worked on Clintons 2008 campaign. Now that it is basically mathematically impossible for Bernie Sanders to win the Democratic nomination, it is time for our party to come together in support of Hillary Clinton.
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My hope is that after New York it becomes clear to everyone that Secretary Clinton will be the nominee, he continued.
On the heels of Clintons win in the Empire State, Bradley Bannon, a Democratic strategist, said Sanders has moved from implausible to impossible territory for winning the nomination.
His campaign is starting to remind me of a big Hollywood disaster movie where youre expected to ignore reality and suspend disbelief, Bannon said. At some point, you cant suspend disbelief anymore.
On CNN, Van Jones, a Democrat who worked for President Obama, declared that the Vermont senators political revolution was over.
In the lead-up to Tuesdays contest, Clintons campaign aides maintained that the contentious and increasingly bitter primary battle was exactly what they thought it would be.
They say they expected the Democratic debate in Brooklyn last week to be scrappy, and they knew their opponent would draw large crowds, as he did in Washington Square Park and Prospect Park. And they knew Sanders would sharpen his attacks.
But at the same time, Team Clinton knew it had to protect its advantage in the state, and their candidate campaigned hard because, as one aide put it earlier in the week, I dont think its going to be a blowout.
Still, the Democratic front-runner, surrounded by many members of her former Senate staff, spent the bulk of her time in New York City and its five boroughs, where she played dominos, drank bubble tea and popped by an Irish bar.
Those close to her say she had fun getting reacquainted with her former constituents all over the state. Meanwhile her husband, former President Bill Clinton, largely campaigned upstate, where he appeared at several events each day.
Critics, including some Democrats, have argued that Sanders had momentum on his side, causing Clinton to fight for a state she represented for eight years in the Senate.
On Tuesday night, before a large, raucous crowd, Clinton emerged to Jay Zs Empire State of Mind alongside Bill Clinton, her daughter, Chelsea, and son-in-law Marc Mezvinsky.
New Yorkers, youve always had my back, and Ive always tried to have yours, she said.
And in a lengthy speech, she moved quickly to appeal to Sanders supporters who have threatened to stay home in the general election.
I believe theres much more that unites us than divides us, she said.
Going forward, aides say they still expect Sanders to keep the pressure on Clinton. One aide predicted he might win an upcoming contest or two and compete all the way until June, just as Clinton did in 2008.
One aide said Clinton will take on the general while continuing to compete in the primary, where upcoming states including Pennsylvania, Delaware and Maryland vote next week.
source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/276935-team-clinton-to-sanders-its-over
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)... so when Hillary's indictment comes down they can bring in Joe Biden.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)I had heard such rumor from fairly good sources--somewhat better than a "friend of a friend" but still un-attributable.
Autumn
(45,091 posts)All due respect candidate Clinton, I believe theres much more that divides us than unites us , . Staring with your destructive actions.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)I was just going to post that "There is much more that divides us than unites us."
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I laughed at that comment. There is the same amount that unites me with Republicans as unites me with Hillary. Hillary and I are THAT far apart on the Issues...
and on integrity and honesty.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)nt
bvar22
(39,909 posts)They will come in droves to vote against her.
Their hate for her is at historical levels, as indicated by her historically LOW approval ratings.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I predict the highest turnout of Republicans ever to vote AGAINST Hillary.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)the insiders likely would vote for her and the non washington types might vote against, say for trump or ???
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Hillary WILL Unite the Republican Party,
and will use all their BILLIONS of Koch Bros Money, and every other nickle and dime they can
scrape together along with a friendly Media (which they OWN) to make sure the World knows about it.
You haven't seen anything yet.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)have not been told anything about Hillary in that respect though.
I suspect you might be right. However, they might vote for her because she's a neoliberal and they want the trade deals which basically take over the future. they might hold their nose and vote for her because of the trade deals.
The Trade Deals are ONE issue where Hillary and the Republicans are in complete agreement.
Republicans don't have to vote for Hillary to get bad trade deals that enrich the already rich. Any one of their candidates will do exactly the same.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)since Bill is the human being most associated with corporatist style globalization on the planet.
He gave keynote speeches at at least two WTO Ministerial events.
Back in the 1990s the "generosity" of the WTO progressive liberalisation agenda (at the expense of working people in the developed countries, playing us off against the skilled workers from developed countries, was committed to, but those commitments were based on profound underestimates of the rate of technological change and the duration of the growth phase in emerging economies. Automation is improving must faster than they thought it would.
Making the agenda they are pushing insanity. Instead, the developing world should be allowed to shed its corrupt governments and improve wages THERE. instead of throwing open the floodgates to global equalization of wages in the context of captive guest worker programs.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)Claiming victory when the games isn't over. Delusional at best. So the sHillary team thinks this is over after stopping the losing skid?
Hopefully they will go back to "concentrating on the GE" as if this is over
Last time they did that Bernie picked up 8 of 10 races.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)Edit to add that the Clintons do have the boss Tweed vote.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bernie won 763,469 which is 12,450 more than Obama received in 2008.
Altogether, Democrats received 1,817,552 votes.
https://www.google.com/webhp#q=New+York+primary+results&eob=m.059rby/D/2/short/m.059rby/
Hillary's share of the votes DECREASED SLIGHTLY THIS YEAR.
If Hillary were really a strong candidate, the candidate we need, she would have won by a much larger margin in her "home state," the state she has represented in Congress.
Fact is, Hillary did not do that well.
Democrats are still way ahead in New York, but Hillary is not as popular among Democrats as she was in 2008.
And Bernie is more popular in New York than Obama was -- both in raw numbers and in percentages. The differences are not uuuge, but they are there.
Bernie is a very, very strong candidate. No one should underestimate him.
Hillary is weaker than she was in 2008, and she was not popular enough then.
And thanks to New York's disenfranchising election laws, Hillary probably did better than she would have had more people who were not registered as Democrats by the October deadline been able to change and join the Democratic Party before election day.
Feel the Bern! Cause from these numbers, I'd say that voters in New York are feeling it much more than the election numbers show. And more than they felt the Obama fever.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)In fact all the states need to.
jillan
(39,451 posts)The number needed to win.
Second of all Bernie is doing better than Cruz. Yet Cruz is a viable candidate that can stop Trump but Bernie needs to drop out now.
Yeah right. Screw them.
PFunk1
(185 posts)And that's putting them in fear mode.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)This a replay of what they tried last month: try to sell people on the idea that Bernie has no chance when there's a clump of states likely to favor Hillary.
I don't see Bernie getting enough pledged delegates to win the nomination, but I don't see Hillary doing that, either. And the superdelegates can change their minds. This is an attempt to force Bernie out of the race so she doesn't have to rely on the supers.
lmbradford
(517 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)We are going to go all the way.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bernie got 86% in his home state and is revered there like a hero.
Fact is Hillary won but really did NOT do all that well in her home stateT
Bernie's over 40% of the vote was quite amazing considering that Hillary had represented the state in the Senate for portions of two terms.
Hillary is not very popular in much of New York State. Bernie is more popular.
Hillary is more popular in the densely populated areas.
Hillary lost in large portions of the state -- viewed geographically.
Jennylynn
(696 posts)So frick her.
Keep going Bernie!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Bernie is in this to the convention, and the revolution that he has started shall go beyond. The revolution shall go on until the 1% are behind bars, and stripped of their power!
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I would like to be allowed to vote.
Yuugal
(2,281 posts)Is that it is not about him. It is about us and we will go on long after this primary. The movement will only get stronger.
deepestblue
(349 posts)We're going to the convention with no-one holding the # of pledged delegates required, but Bernie hopefully in the lead. Bernie to win it at the convention. (My hope).
mac56
(17,568 posts)On edit: I used to respect Van Jones so much. Disappointing.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)in the slammer. So I hear. He's a natural extension of the Clinton family.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)And she's dropping out! Good news!
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)I prefer an honest and moral individual who is worried about the things I'm worried about, and oh yeah, he's not under investigation by the FBI.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)That shit on the campaign trail is just that, bullshit polished to a bright mirror finish.
Each voter must make their own decision either to take a stand or go with the DNC flow.
Stand takers: Get your hides out there and vote for your down ticket Democrats! THAT is where the real change begins!
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Hills needs to win 67.9% of the remaining delegates to reach 2383 based on pledged delegates alone. She can't do that and she knows it. A contested convention will show how weak she is. And it gives Bernie huge bargaining power, even if he can't sway enough superdelegates his way.
All this, of course, is assuming she -- or one+ close aides -- doesn't get FBI rec for indictment before then.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Donate again!
There....done!
Now maybe sign up for some phone banking or canvassing in Cali
Sorry to be so crude but many of us haven't "spoken" yet.
I tweeted to the douche - Eric Jotkoff. Let's see if he responds.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Eric Jotkoff ?@Eric_Jotkoff 3m3 minutes ago
@D_Born Yes, CA hasn't voted. But at this point Sanders needs to win basically 80% in all remaining states to tie Clinton in delegates
WTF?!?! What a load of crap
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)I saw the exact same number here and also on CNN.
So they are pushing lies ad nauseum.
mahina
(17,659 posts)to which we say: Psshhhh. ya right. Dream on.
CRACK
AND THE CROWD GOES WILD...It's outta here.
Get ready.