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Bernin4U

(812 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:12 PM Apr 2016

Latest meme, "Bernie went too negative"?

Seen several articles lately, trying to claim how the campaign's recent "turn towards the low road" is what cost him NY, and hence any chances at the nomination.

Of course there's no way to objectively support this, and they won't bother to try. Because they don't need to. They can say anything they want, and claim his loss as their proof.

Much more interesting is to look at the exit polls.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/19/us/elections/new-york-primary-democratic-exit-polls.html?_r=0

They tied among whites and among males. She clearly did better among poc and women. And obviously among the pro-Wall Street.

He won on trustworthiness and campaign fairness. For what that was worth.

She won on gun policy, suggesting that her recent attacks against him on that have worked.

So I'm not seeing where in these polls that running a positive campaign helps, or a negative one hurts.

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Latest meme, "Bernie went too negative"? (Original Post) Bernin4U Apr 2016 OP
Whatever he does will be LiberalElite Apr 2016 #1
It seems that the "negative" label has nothing to do with facts- Baobab Apr 2016 #2
She flips and flops, shape shifts, sucks up for 1% money around the world, is SoapBox Apr 2016 #3
I like the one about Bernie "rigging" the election by appealing to the superdelegates. winter is coming Apr 2016 #4
Yeah, it probably doesn't get much cuter than that. Bernin4U Apr 2016 #6
It's all bullshit SheenaR Apr 2016 #5
I know, this meme gets pushed but then flamingdem Apr 2016 #7

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
2. It seems that the "negative" label has nothing to do with facts-
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

It sounds like they are asking that no issues be brought up?

There are a lot of issues!

For example, we've all been misled about the real reasons for health care problems.

How could any candidate bring something of this magnitude up without being accused of going negative?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
3. She flips and flops, shape shifts, sucks up for 1% money around the world, is
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

thick in a shifty and shady network of foundations, groups and Super PACs...

And when any of the stuff that comes from her mouth is questioned or facts pointed out,

He is negative.

Fuck that shit.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
4. I like the one about Bernie "rigging" the election by appealing to the superdelegates.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

Lining up superdelegates before a single vote has been cast is apparently okay. Trying to convince the superdelegates after the primary contest is over and they've actually had a chance to see how good you are at bringing in delegates, money, and enthusiastic voters is "rigging".

I'm not a fan of the concept of superdelegates in the first place, but if we're stuck with them, shouldn't they be assessing which candidate is more electable after they've seen how they stack up in the field? Especially when one candidate is implicated in a pending FBI investigation?

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
6. Yeah, it probably doesn't get much cuter than that.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:21 PM
Apr 2016

Clearly, they'll play "ends justifies the means" at every chance. But they'll be the last to admit it, so the Ministry of Disinformation will be kept running at full keel, to keep the victim defense firmly in place.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
7. I know, this meme gets pushed but then
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:46 PM
Apr 2016

someone pipes up and says it wasn't a negative time compared to other times.

But whenever negative is mentioned Sanders name is the next thing said.

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