Bernie Sanders

eridani

(51,907 posts) Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:19 AM Apr 2016

Sanders Campaign’s Commitment To Victory Irritates Media, Offends Clinton Campaign

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/21/sanders-campaigns-commitment-victory-irritates-media-offends-clinton-campaign

However, what Bump, Walsh, and others seem to misunderstand is Weaver made his comments under the presumption that neither Clinton nor Sanders will meet the 2,383 pledged delegate threshold needed to clinch the nomination before the convention. Both candidates will need to make cases to superdelegates to clinch the nomination. Clinton will have to keep the superdelegates from switching and Sanders will have to find some way to persuade superdelegates to support him over the establishment’s favored candidate.

Clinton and Sanders, as has been the case throughout the primary, will bring a significant attention to the superdelegate system employed by the Democratic Party. The surrogates and supporters for both candidates will inevitably find new reasons to loathe the system by the time the convention is over. Both candidates will wage a kind of information war in the media to convince the population that their strategy respects the will of voters, even as the party elites have their moment to demonstrate how they have more influence as superdelegates.

There is nothing wrong with lobbying superdelegates. Dennis Archer, a superdelegate from Michigan and former mayor of Detroit who supports Clinton, told The Guardian, “I would do the same thing if I were them and I’m not at all offended at them. One would expect that to occur.”

Yet, as numerous people reflect on the Democratic primary the day after the New York primary, why is it offensive to so many liberal and establishment Democrats, particularly those who back Clinton?

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Sanders Campaign’s Commitment To Victory Irritates Media, Offends Clinton Campaign (Original Post) eridani Apr 2016 OP

Let it play out. We're still in it to win it, & we think we have the superior platform, candidate, & highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #1

And Clinton has some karmic retribution coming her way. truedelphi Apr 2016 #2

Preferential choice voting would eliinate the need for a lot of this. Baobab Apr 2016 #7

That would solve some of the $ influence too. postulater Apr 2016 #14

It's not over till it's over. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #3

And even when it's over, there's the wrestlign match at the convention. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #4

GO BERNIE!!!!!!!!!!! ALL THEY WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!!!! eom LiberalElite Apr 2016 #5

Keep going Bernie Sanders! Phuck the terrified flapping of feathers. nc4bo Apr 2016 #6

Too bad... lmbradford Apr 2016 #8

Poor dears. They must have such tender bruised egos right now... Bubzer Apr 2016 #9

despite the odds shireen Apr 2016 #10

Absolutely. Not a day goes by that I don't end up explaining this. n/t DebJ Apr 2016 #13

Let's keep things in perspective. Hillary won only 2 of the last 10 primaries/caucuses AND both of jillan Apr 2016 #11

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi Apr 2016 #12

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)

1. Let it play out. We're still in it to win it, & we think we have the superior platform, candidate, &

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:23 AM

Apr 2016

chance of winning the general election.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)

2. And Clinton has some karmic retribution coming her way.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:25 AM

Apr 2016

Legal problems may be coming her way.

Bernie doesn't have that sort of thing to worry about, though naysayers are still demanding he produce his 2015, 2016 and 2017 tax returns!

Baobab

(4,667 posts)

7. Preferential choice voting would eliinate the need for a lot of this.

Reply to truedelphi (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:37 AM

Apr 2016

People could vote for second and third choices. Then the various parties could share power in proportion to their representation in votes. Many other countries do it that way and they seem often to be more responsive to the people's needs.

postulater

(5,075 posts)

14. That would solve some of the $ influence too.

Reply to Baobab (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

Apr 2016

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

3. It's not over till it's over.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:30 AM

Apr 2016

Neither candidate will enter the convention with 2383 pledged delegates. Delegates don't just vote for a candidate there. They also vote on party platform, rules, and other things. It's important for Sanders to have as many delegates as possible. For example, it's very likely many Clinton delegates will vote for most of Sanders platform as the party platform.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

4. And even when it's over, there's the wrestlign match at the convention.

Reply to HooptieWagon (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:34 AM

Apr 2016

if Bernie quits now, as Hillary supporters demand he do, that weakens any chance of getting his planks nailed into the democratic party Platform - which is exactly why they want him to quit now.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)

5. GO BERNIE!!!!!!!!!!! ALL THEY WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!!!! eom

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:02 AM

Apr 2016

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)

6. Keep going Bernie Sanders! Phuck the terrified flapping of feathers.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:12 AM

Apr 2016

You'd think Team Weather vane has multiple concerns while waiting for the clock to run out.

lmbradford

(517 posts)

8. Too bad...

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:58 PM

Apr 2016

They don't get to decide this primary. We the people do and until every state has had their say, shut up and deal with the fact that the people get to chose.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)

9. Poor dears. They must have such tender bruised egos right now...

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:03 PM

Apr 2016

shireen

(8,333 posts)

10. despite the odds

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:06 PM

Apr 2016

We need to stand behind Bernie all the way to the convention. This isn't just about the nomination. It's also about creating that movement he's been talking about. It's the only way to bring about sustainable change in politics.