Bernie Sanders
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(1,065 posts)tymorial
(3,433 posts)Look at 4 years ago. Paul supporters did not turn around and support Romney. The feeling of being disenfranchised by the establiahment transcends party boundries even if there is strong ideological disagreement among individuals.
djean111
(14,255 posts)There is no trust in the establishment
They are not scared to sit this one out
You cant make them do anything
And Hillary thinks that, not only will they support her GOP values, like war and fracking and the TPP and crushing student debt, but that they will actually give her money.
I cannot see anything ending well if Hillary gets the nomination. Well, the Clintons always manage to surface, swimming in a sea of money, but nothing good for the rest of us.
[font size=3] No. We. Can't![/font]
isn't going to attract any Millennials or Independents...or many Bernie supporters.
Especially because they are aware that every developed country in the World already has!, but according to Hillary, Americans must settle for Far Less than the rest of the developed World takes for granted.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Interesting article.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)how my kids and their friends feel. Thankfully they have the notion that voting for the lesser of the two evils is not necessary nor a way to make a change happen.
There are a lot of us who are way beyond the millennial age group who feel the same. We have been out voted for years as our age group chose to go with "whatever" just so they did not have to stop their upward movement in society.
I still blame Reagan for all that betrayal from the boomers. For a while there I felt like I had been sucked into a vacuum or something as I watched my former pals in consciousness raising go for all the toys. Reagan and the seeming need of people to always have more.
Go millennials, help us get back to trying to make this country a place where all people can at least expect to be able to feed their children.
Thanks for this article.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)It stated quite plainly how I and almost every Bernie supporter I know feels.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)imari362
(311 posts)There is no trust in the establishment
They are not scared to sit this one out
You cant make them do anything
Party's O V E R
thereismore
(13,326 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)Democratic Party, and countless lives.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Now we have a problem where both parties are corrupt as we are finding out this year. We listened to the party about Bill and his problems and we believed them when we were told it was just "a vast rightwing conspiracy". Probably so but that conspiracy made us take our eyes of the the crimes and ignore them because they came from the right".
If Bernie wins, I hope that we never take our eyes off of him. I hope we hold him accountable for anything that happens. That is where the U.S. went wrong. We did not hold our own to the same accountability as we held the opposing people to.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Something's changed now. The young people are not so blind. I do not worship Bernie and neither do they. They appreciate the ideas, the issues. Bernie was right, he is running an issue campaign, hammering his ideas day in and out, like a "broken record." He refrained from quick attacks on Hillary, he did not even make a big deal out of the email server. I think it is a BFD. Young people would follow anybody with these ideas, not just Bernie. He is just a messenger, not the Messiah. There is a future for Bernie fans that does not end in this election. I hope, if he does not win, that he would be instrumental in creating a new party, but I am afraid he wants to reform the party from the inside. I think it is futile, unless of course, he becomes the party leader, which can only happen if he is elected.
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)An interesting way to tell people how much they matter.
I suppose the psychology behind this is that if they can get you to spend that amount of money, it must be a quality product you are investing in...or something?
I wonder how that will work out for them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141424539
thereismore
(13,326 posts)surrogates and that's a maybe.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)telling them to KISS MY ARSE!
I'm done with the corruption. Now we know, without a shadow of a doubt, the "Democratic" party is just as corrupt as the Repub party. There's no difference between them anymore. Their dog and pony show has been exposed. The CHARADE is over.
I'm leaving the party if Clinton is allowed to steal this election.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I agree with every word.
I'm over the corruption.
DI Freighter Watcher
(128 posts)Then it's over for me as well. I will then be a
NADA--Never A Democrat Again
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)and I'm a Boomer too.
I applaud the younger folks who see through the charade and are willing to fight. They're the future and it looks good.
DI Freighter Watcher
(128 posts)JP said it succinctly, and I'll add a big fat
OH HELL NO!
Thanks for sharing this
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Most of the party loyalist have jobs, have health insurance, have transportation, have a place to live, have families. How can they really understand what it means to those who don't have those things, when they say, "be patient, wait; small change is better than no change"? Small change is no change! The status quo can no longer be tolerated; people are suffering!
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Though, admittedly, taken totally out of context here and not quite the correct use, it's a sentiment black people are all too familiar with.
just calling it like I see it
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Before they can be made better.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)But you're probably right.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)willing to vote for a neocon for president - we haven't hit bottom yet.
stage left
(2,962 posts)DebDoo
(319 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)All you need is a can of tuna fish, and a can opener. They will come a runnin' to you!
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)We do have to read this because it crystallizes articulately what millions of us Bernie supporters feel. WE ARE A NEW PARTY composed of people of all voting age. The millenials are out in front because they have the stamina, passion and technology going for them. They're present and loud, and I love them for it. I'm looking forward to voting for Bernie twice in California. It's the least I can do.
K&R