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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:02 PM Apr 2016

Have you seen this? The vultures want Bernie's email list.

Fuck them! After the way the DNC has treated Bernie, I pray that he does not give this to them.

What can we do to stop it? It's bad enough that her campaign hacked in Bernie's info when the firewall was down (and then blamed him!) but this - NO way!!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-fundraising-list-222342


The fate of Sanders' golden catalog of donors and volunteers — his email list — is the talk of the Democratic Party.

Bernie Sanders shows no sign of dropping out of the presidential race anytime soon, but the vultures are already circling over his email list — perhaps the most coveted and valuable catalog of potential voters and donors in the Democratic Party at the moment.

The post-campaign fate of Sanders’ list — his 2016 crown jewel, and the backbone of the Vermont senator's online fundraising juggernaut — is the topic of frequent conversation among operatives working with the Democratic Party committees, down-ballot candidates and a variety of liberal interest groups. Some have already begun strategizing about how to access the list through informal conversations with people close to the Sanders campaign.


For those fighting for the issues Sanders has made the centerpiece of his campaign — like campaign finance reform, the environment and economic justice — his list of several million fervent activists willing to volunteer and donate money, often repeatedly, is regarded as something of an electoral gold mine.

But Sanders, still a White House candidate facing an uphill battle for the Democratic nomination, has all the leverage and control. So for now, any talk about his data trove takes place behind closed doors among Democrats eager not to offend him. Those close to his campaign recognize that if he started sharing his list now, he runs the risk of watering down his own fundraising potential as he focuses on defeating Hillary Clinton.

Democrats of all stripes also know that another, bigger, question looms: how — or even if —Clinton’s campaign will get any access to Sanders’ roster of young liberals, the group she’s struggled to reach for months


Sanders’ staffers won’t comment on the exact size of the list, but his campaign has said it has 2.2 million donors, and the New York-based firm eDataSource estimates there are 5.2 million email addresses on it. The very fact that Sanders’ online fundraising prowess has become a focal point means that the question of what to do with the list is all the more complex.

“There’s this view among the Washington consultant class that these members are an ATM and you throw some words at them and they’ll give you money no matter what,” said Neil Sroka, a former Obama 2008 campaign aide now working as communications director of Democracy For America, which has endorsed Sanders. “Everyone in the Democratic Party is going to want Bernie Sanders’ seal of approval and a chance to share their message with the people on his email list."


There's more at the link. FUCK THEM!! Please Bernie do not do this.
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Have you seen this? The vultures want Bernie's email list. (Original Post) jillan Apr 2016 OP
I would give it to them under one condition. RDANGELO Apr 2016 #1
You mean HIS VP. cui bono Apr 2016 #10
+1000. nt TBF Apr 2016 #18
I think this was LiberalElite Apr 2016 #2
I am not an ATM. How dare them? If they do get their hands on this list, I would hope we jillan Apr 2016 #3
not one dime and none of my time eom LiberalElite Apr 2016 #5
This right here said by this fucking ass is exactly what is wrong with that party Autumn Apr 2016 #4
Hillary in a town hall tonight was adamant that she would not make one change for Bernie Baobab Apr 2016 #24
you know how a microwave is a great convenience that doesn't work without electricity hollysmom Apr 2016 #6
They already have most of the list from the breach, but is looks so damn obvious when they LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #7
This is true! My info was compromised during that breach. Not only did I start getting emails jillan Apr 2016 #8
I got the solicitation email from HRC so quick after donating through ACT BLUE LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #11
They already have it! Remember Debbiegate? I have been getting crap from them silvershadow Apr 2016 #9
They sent me crap in the mail & I filled out their survey along TBF Apr 2016 #19
I did too! Twice! Then they eased up on the mailings...LOL nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #20
I don't think Howard Dean handed over his email list. greymouse Apr 2016 #12
pray Baobab Apr 2016 #25
He doesn't need to. It's a red herring to cover up Debbiegate. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #28
Do not divulge your email list Bernie... let it be a test of confidentiality and security of online nenagh Apr 2016 #13
He won't need to. Remember Debbiegate? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #29
I recently received some postal mail from the Democratic Party. leftcoastmountains Apr 2016 #14
I always return those with a nasty note in their prepaid envelope....to make them waste money. in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #16
The DNC or Clinton will not get one penny from me if they steal this election from Bernie and in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #15
LOL! if this were true: noamnety Apr 2016 #17
Exactly what I thought Hydra Apr 2016 #22
SHe's got superPAC's. It was her choice. She didn't have to. And in this case, all it did was silvershadow Apr 2016 #30
K&R felix_numinous Apr 2016 #21
+100 Baobab Apr 2016 #26
The serious question concerns the "variety of liberal interest groups." Jim Lane Apr 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #27
Gosh, really? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #31
! ! Petrushka Apr 2016 #32
LOL, as if Sanders' list would do HER any good... Ino Apr 2016 #33
That right there. noamnety Apr 2016 #34

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
2. I think this was
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

posted already. I ll just unsubscribe and tell them why in my (oughtta be) patented blunt fashion.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
3. I am not an ATM. How dare them? If they do get their hands on this list, I would hope we
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

all would unsubscribe.

I vote with my dollars, and the current Dem Party leadership is not getting one cent.

Autumn

(45,114 posts)
4. This right here said by this fucking ass is exactly what is wrong with that party
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:10 PM
Apr 2016
“There’s this view among the Washington consultant class that these members are an ATM and you throw some words at them and they’ll give you money no matter what,” said Neil Sroka
Fuck that.

I would't piss in their ears if their brains were on fucking fire much less give them a fucking dime.

I hope Bernie tells them to fuck off.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
24. Hillary in a town hall tonight was adamant that she would not make one change for Bernie
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

After all, SHE's the winner, she was ranting.

Can you imagine four years of this?

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
6. you know how a microwave is a great convenience that doesn't work without electricity
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

well this atm does not work without a reasonable candidate that is not working against me.

LiberalArkie

(15,720 posts)
7. They already have most of the list from the breach, but is looks so damn obvious when they
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

use it. That want to get it legitimately to cover their rear end.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
8. This is true! My info was compromised during that breach. Not only did I start getting emails
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

welcoming me to the Hillary campaign at that exact time, they also knew my name.

My email address and my name are two different things. It was so obvious what happened.

LiberalArkie

(15,720 posts)
11. I got the solicitation email from HRC so quick after donating through ACT BLUE
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:24 PM
Apr 2016

I wondering what the hell happened. This was before it ever made the news. It was the standard type email thanking me for my contribution for the same amount and the same day I did it to Bernie. I thought that they had hacked into Act Blue for awhile until the news broke.

I will lay odds that someone on Bernies staff got the same email and then they blew the whistle. They did not know who or how early on though.

It is interesting that all the people he had trouble with worked on the 2008 Obama campaign. They may have been working for HRC back then also.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
9. They already have it! Remember Debbiegate? I have been getting crap from them
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

ever since. Postal mail, too. nt

TBF

(32,071 posts)
19. They sent me crap in the mail & I filled out their survey along
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:46 PM
Apr 2016

with many additional comments. Then I sent it back to them at their own expense. I will not send them a penny.

greymouse

(872 posts)
12. I don't think Howard Dean handed over his email list.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

I doubt that Bernie will.

Anyway, it won't do them any good. Just toss their address in your spam filter.

By the way, I saw in another thread that the Green Party welcomes Sanders' supporters if Bernie does not get the nomination, and Jill Stein would step down to the VP slot if Bernie ran as their Presidential candidate. I still am hoping for the Democratic nomination, but the Green Party has ballot access in many states and a structure already.

This is a good reason to look at Green access to your state's ballot and help them out that way if they need it.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
13. Do not divulge your email list Bernie... let it be a test of confidentiality and security of online
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

voter identity.

We'll know soon enough if emails start arriving from non Bernie sources.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
14. I recently received some postal mail from the Democratic Party.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not a Democrat. I thought you've got to be kidding. Not a dime, not one
lousy dime!

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
16. I always return those with a nasty note in their prepaid envelope....to make them waste money.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
15. The DNC or Clinton will not get one penny from me if they steal this election from Bernie and
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

we all know that's what they're TRYING to do, but we're going to stop their corrupt thieving arses!

NEVER, EVER, EVER will those people and that party get one freakin' cent from me. Their emails will go directly to my spam folder.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
17. LOL! if this were true:
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

“you throw some words at them and they’ll give you money no matter what”

we'd all be Hillary supporters!

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
22. Exactly what I thought
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:53 PM
Apr 2016

They'll huff and puff about Trump or whatever the wheel of propaganda told them to say this particular spin, but I don't see any Bernie supporters throwing money in for the Queen. A vote and a few growls, if they're lucky.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
30. SHe's got superPAC's. It was her choice. She didn't have to. And in this case, all it did was
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

embarrass and expose her.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
21. K&R
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:59 PM
Apr 2016

Why do I suspect they have the list already and want to cover up how they got it, make it look like they asked above board.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
23. The serious question concerns the "variety of liberal interest groups."
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

I agree with the screw-the-DNC comments in this thread. It wouldn't be a hugely productive list for the conservaDems, anyway.

Bernie would have reason to be much more inclined to share the list with organizations like Democratic Socialists of America, Democracy for America, or Progressive Democrats of America.

Response to jillan (Original post)

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
31. Gosh, really?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016

If Hillary people believe everything they say about Bernie and his supporters, wouldn't that mean the DNC is basically hoping ot get a lot of money from people who are worse than Hammerskins?

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
32. ! !
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:17 AM
Apr 2016

"Everyone in the Democratic Party is going to want Bernie Sanders’ seal of approval and a chance to share their message with the people on his email list." ??

How many of them have already taken their "chance to share their message with people" by failing to support Bernie in the first place? None of them deserve access to Bernie's e-mail list!

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
34. That right there.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:14 AM
Apr 2016

I can't help thinking what incredible suckers her supporters are if they donate to her.

That "just one dollar maddie" thing is the equivalent of like seeing a gofundme site for the Walton heirs.

Am I really going to donate any part of my teacher salary to fund someone who makes $200000 in a few minutes? I don't think so!

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