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TheSocialDem

(191 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:44 PM Apr 2016

How bad will the voter disenfranchisement be tomorrow?

i'm dreading the impending headlines about new instances of shady business going on at the voting booths tomorrow.

how many hours will people be waiting to cast votes at understaffed poling places, how many more peoples votes will be inevitably and unjustly suppressed.

i'd love to be optimistic but by the way the primary election is unfolding so far, i'd say we are in for a doozy tomorrow.

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winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
1. Rhode Island will obviously be a clusterfuck, with so few polling places.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

I'm expecting as much useful incompetence as we've been seeing all along.

 

veronique25

(74 posts)
4. as long as the clintons don't have the delegates by the convention in philly
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:03 PM
Apr 2016


also, bernie should get more pledged delegates from the voter disenfranchisment investigations in AZ, NY, MA, etc...

as long as bernie is close in delegates before either of them reaches the magic number -- the convention will get global attention, and the superdelegates will one-by-one realize that bernie's supporters will be keeping them in office for the next 2 years with contribution$ and passionate principled support

the clintons' lead is based on unfinished voter disenfranchisement investigations, and pre-election superdelegate endorsements

bernie's voters own the democratic party right now, and they are more valuable than millions of corporate and celebrity dollars

george clooney and steven spielberg only have two votes for all their billions!

bernie's america of economic and cultural equality, rules!

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
5. Even The Investigations Are Rigged
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:26 AM
Apr 2016

If you examine the fall-out from a distance, you can see that it's all coordinated. In Arizona, Clinton supporters went from saying that the election results were fine to supporting the lawsuit. Why? Because many of the same people who were prevented from voting for Sanders in the primary will be vital for Clinton in the general.

Look at New York. It's a win-win for deBlasio. He can feign outrage at the primary results when his constituents were disenfranchised and then swoop in like the hero and correct the problem for the general.

We may see some votes corrected accurately for Bernie but it won't be enough.

Most important point: even when corrections are made retroactively, the strategy is to stunt Sanders' momentum. That is exactly what happened with New York. If he had won New York (as he actually did), then all 4/26 states would have been in play. Now, he'll be lucky to win 2 or 3. In the meantime, the Hillarians have ratcheted up the bile to the point that thousands have to tune out in order to survive. I'm 100% Sanders and barely can stand it.

The good news is that Sanders seems to have learned his lesson. If he returns to form, he still can enter the convention is a viable position. Let's not forget that Obama won Indiana in 2008. Hoosiers can be progressive when given a reason.

 

veronique25

(74 posts)
6. millions of principled contributing bernie voters are more valuable than clintons' millions
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016



as far as im concerned, bernie's job is to get to the convention without the clintons reaching the magic number

should the clintons get the nomination -- even if bernie told all his voters to vote for her in the g.e., it wouldn't be enough votes for her, because most independents will stay home, and a chunk of unregistered right-wingers will vote for trump

bernie's millions of contributing, principled voters are much more valuable to the democratic party, than george clooney and spielberg's billions; so bernie has the leverage for his principled agenda at the convention. he should not cave-in: the democrats need his voters

the clintons new campaign motto: "we'd like to give you all health-care, college, a living wage, a healthy planet, and world peace, but THE REPUBLICANS WON'T LET US!"

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