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merrily

(45,251 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:25 PM Jul 2015

Why are a Republican and msm anxious to keep Sanders off the ballot in NH in the DEMOCRATIC primary?

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/24/416929786/this-quirky-new-hampshire-law-might-keep-sanders-off-the-ballotf

As most of us know by now, New Hampshire law supposedly requires Bernie to be registered as a Democrat but Vermont has no way of allowing anyone to register (politically) as anything but a voter. I have not yet found the law itself, but the oath a candidate must swear in order to get on the ballot, the full text of which appears in the article linked above, includes registration language.

In Congress, Bernie has caucused with Democrats. The DSCC has said officially that it will not support any Democrat who runs against him. Both Schumer and Dean have said publicly that they consider him an asset.


Twice, Vermont Democrats ran Bernie as their own candidate and he won those Democratic nominations. However, he declined to accept. Still, he was the nominee of the Vermont Democratic Party. Also, the Vermont Democratic Party has recognized him as a Democrat, as has the DNC and--wait for it--as has the New Hampshire Democratic Party. So, why all the handwringing in the establishment media?

This particular article drew my attention, though, because it mentions that a New Hampshire Republican went to the trouble of writing an Op-Ed for the New York Times saying that Bernie does not qualify to be on the ballot under New Hampshire law.



Why would a New Hampshire Republican want to keep Bernie off the Democratic primary ballot?

BTW: Vermont law determines Bernie's voter registration. Vermont law seems to allow Bernie to be whatever he declares himself to be at any given time.

If New Hampshire does refuse to recognize that Bernie is now a Democrat under Vermont law, despite Vermont's recognizing him as such (and the DNC, the Vermont Democratic Party and the New Hampshire Democratic Party), then I am fairly sure Bernie can "make a federal case out of it" and win.


United States Constitution, Article IV
Section 1.

Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
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Why are a Republican and msm anxious to keep Sanders off the ballot in NH in the DEMOCRATIC primary? (Original Post) merrily Jul 2015 OP
the anti-Hillary file is thicker? virtualobserver Jul 2015 #1
OMG, I am actually supporting Dismal Rancid, but there is no DU Group for her yet, so I post here. merrily Jul 2015 #5
I wondered the same thing HassleCat Jul 2015 #2
Bernie said he would not run as a spoiler. Why is establishment media flogging this story? merrily Jul 2015 #6
Hope springs eternal HassleCat Jul 2015 #7
This is not ringing true to me at all. Nader had money and could afford to run as a spoiler. merrily Jul 2015 #8
Third party HassleCat Jul 2015 #9
Relevance? This is about Bernie, not Nader, and I don't think Nader is running this time. merrily Jul 2015 #10
It's a historical comparison HassleCat Jul 2015 #14
I did not know why you were bringing up Nader. Nothing about my question was snotty or insincere. merrily Jul 2015 #15
OK, thank you HassleCat Jul 2015 #16
No problem. Easy to mistake things like that on a message board. merrily Jul 2015 #18
Because the only actual important issues to Republicans and MSM are economic. Bernie is the enemy of GoneFishin Jul 2015 #3
It's in the GOP's best interests that Hillary win rocktivity Jul 2015 #4
I believe you have nailed it. nt djean111 Jul 2015 #11
I also agree. SoapBox Jul 2015 #13
DUers have no idea of the contempt in which Hillary is held by so many JDPriestly Jul 2015 #22
I would imagine that Bernie's campaign team is all over this. SoapBox Jul 2015 #12
The articles says only that he doesn't think it will be a problem. I agree. It's only the media and merrily Jul 2015 #17
Well, some "Democrats" coughthirdwaycough are flogging this here at DU. kath Jul 2015 #19
You may want to bookmark this thread? merrily Jul 2015 #20
Good idea. GAH - all the dead-horse-beating going on around here is really something else. kath Jul 2015 #21
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. I wondered the same thing
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jul 2015

I thought the GOP would want Sanders in as long as possible, thereby increasing the odds of some kind of nasty Democratic cat fight, embarrassing stuff to use against Clinton, etc. But somebody responded the GOP hopes Sanders would be encouraged to run as an independent if he is kept off the Democratic primary ballot. That would be an enormous long shot, but it does fit the pattern of the Grand Old Party. Grandiose Old Party, maybe.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. Hope springs eternal
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jul 2015

As far as the media, they need to generate some stories, and it's always good when someone appears as a spoiler. As far as the GOP, they don't know Sanders, but they can hope he develops some sort of ego problem that makes him run as a spoiler. They're probably hoping Clinton tries to force him off the ballot in various primaries, thereby making him angry and rebellious.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. This is not ringing true to me at all. Nader had money and could afford to run as a spoiler.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

Sanders does not and will not accept PAC money. If he did not have donations from Democrats, he'd have to drop out of the race fast.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
9. Third party
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jul 2015

Nader was hoping to start a third party by getting enough votes to qualify for federal matching funds for a third party. I think he made the hurdle, but it wasn't enough to sustain a third party effort.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
14. It's a historical comparison
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:25 PM
Jul 2015

We were discussing possible reasons the GOP might want to keep Sanders off the Democratic ballot. One of those possible reasons was because they hope Sanders will stage a third party or "spoiler" candidacy if he can't get on the Democratic primary ballot. Ralph Nader ran a third party effort in 2000. The Republicans may be hoping Sanders will do something similar to what Nader did. You know, we can talk about things other than why my candidate is wonderful, and the other one is a worthless POS. It's called "discussion." Sheesh!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. I did not know why you were bringing up Nader. Nothing about my question was snotty or insincere.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jul 2015

I've said nothing in this thread--or ever--about anyone's candidate being a POS. I know what a polite discussion is and I had been attempting one with you.

Finally, I did not understand the meaning of your Nader reference because I had already responded to you twice on the possibility that Bernie would run in the general as an Indie: He said he would not and he does not have the money so to do. Republican politicians can figure out the latter quicker than I can.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
3. Because the only actual important issues to Republicans and MSM are economic. Bernie is the enemy of
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

both of them on economic fairness issues.

On edit: the suggestions here that they want to force him to run as an independent make sense too.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
4. It's in the GOP's best interests that Hillary win
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

just as it was eight years ago.

She'll be easier than Bernie to beat -- and if she wins anyway, she'll be easier to control. So it's a win-win for them.


rocktivity

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
22. DUers have no idea of the contempt in which Hillary is held by so many
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jul 2015

ill-informed voters.

A friend of mine who calls herself a liberal informed me that she could not vote for Hillary because Hillary and Bill were involved in or associated in so many murders. I could not believe my ears. That story is totally false. There is no evidence for it.

But it is so hard to prove a negative. The calumny thrown at the Clintons means that Hillary has to lift a heavy weight of nonsense in order to win votes from a lot of brainwashed fools.

It's wrong and unfair, but it is reality.

Yet another reason I am for Bernie.

He does not have all that unfair, false baggage.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. The articles says only that he doesn't think it will be a problem. I agree. It's only the media and
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jul 2015

this Republican who wrote for the NYT flogging this. Of course, the article suggests he is close communication with the New Hampshire Republican in charge of making the decision, who is keeping mum, publicly at least.

kath

(10,565 posts)
19. Well, some "Democrats" coughthirdwaycough are flogging this here at DU.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:29 PM
Jul 2015

And it gets really tiresome.

kath

(10,565 posts)
21. Good idea. GAH - all the dead-horse-beating going on around here is really something else.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jul 2015

They keep bringing up the same things over and over over again. And the arguments go on forever, because some particularly annoying/tenacious posters will. Not. Let. It. Rest.

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