I get the TOS and have to my knowledge not violated it. I will however, vote for whomever I believe to be the best person for the job and I may skip a few spots on the ballot. What others do is of course up to them.

That said, I find the tone of the statement... "But when faced with the prospect of banning half of my members, most of whom are going to regain their sanity once the primary is over and will undoubtedly do the right thing, we decided to give people the benefit of the doubt and let them stick around."

A bit condescending....

sounds like a goal.

I've made two dumb math error posts (and one that looked massively wrong, but only because I typed 4 instead of the upper case $).

I didn't see your posts so you're still perfect in my eyes.

She is linked to the HRC campaign in an official capacity.

Hadn't heard this bit of news about his wife's (and his) allegiances. Googled her name but came up with
this instead.

It amazes me that people with some intelligence can vote for a completely incompetent, morally bankrupt candidate. I would really like to know their thought process.

doing their doo doo duty!

It is your duty to vote for Hillary!!11!!

You know, like war.

That's a good chunk of the meal ticket.

Never hurts to be charitable and restrained in our statements.....

won't it be funny when it ends up being the other half that has to do it

and a positive attitude

Don't let 'em get ya down.

That is precisely why I walk on eggshells around here. Leaders establish, directly control and indirectly influence the culture of a place, organization, group or what have you.

That Skinner uses that tone does not engender confidence. It's one thing when DU'ers or even admin do it but from him, it means so much more.

It's not irrational to be against Hillary, despite popular consensus over there. The scales at DU are not balanced at all - it's clearly not neutral.

...are not in agreement with the heir apparent, then maybe that should be a wake up call.

My sanity is just fine, it doesn't need adjusting,

Others here? Right. I hear therapy can get expensive.

While no one can tell us how to vote, the site is within its rights to enforce the TOC. Luckily for us, the convention is still two months away, a nominee hasn't been chosen, and my preferred candidate is a Democrat.

So far as the rules go, I'm good. #I'mnotwithher

tombstoning large swaths of DU if he felt it would bring parity to the site.

He's gotta protect his future.

or voters to the polls.

Depending entirely on who the violator supports in the primary

posting under new accounts. But I'm sure as obvious as they are MIRT is on to them.

Those crappy hides were somehiw deserved then, but when Team H gets the hides then it's time for the almighty evaluation of the system.

just a hunch.

I can't deal with the Ostriches (Hillary supporters who think the FBI investigation is a partisan one) in GD-P.

I spend my time at Reddit and JPR.

I'm an old woman and I haven't a clue about reddit. I have an account at facebook where I belong to various Bernie groups and jpr, but jpr's low contrast type is too hard to read, the site just feels awkward. Can you post a link to the portion of reddit I should be looking at? Thanks.

No grand exit with departure message, no deletion of account, just abandonment ...for Greener pastures.

That's revealing

that said DU couldn't function without stigmatizing language.

I'm not sure why that would be true, but the above is an example of how the Admin couldn't provide an answer about political opponents without it.

When so many threads have gone on for days involving language used to disparage every other group/issue, you'd think mental illness that affects so many in one way or another - including here - would be an important group to protect from it. Some people don't realize how triggering any stigmatizing language can be, especially for anyone already fighting depression and the self-worth issues that come along with it. I guess you have to be there .....

that makes persons with mental disorders, and mental disorders themselves, adjectives for political opponents.

I don't know exactly what WillyT wrote but if it was sterotyping an entire group it didn't meet the TOS

Lapse of insanity. Please queen, love me - feed me, bless me. Yes more cake please.

I think he'd have to tombstone closer to 90% of his members, not just half, but I get his message.

If Bernie's not the nominee, I'll just leave again for 4 years.

I'm not hanging around for a Clinton love fest.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

We can talk about her elegance, and her coif, and her pumps, and her couture!

You want to miss that??

She might bark for us. I really do like to hear that. Really. It makes me laugh a lot. When she barks, I bark too!

I'm here by choice.

Funny...it sure has been looking like it would be MORE than half the members, that would be eliminated in The Extermination.

So one way or another, you will get in line, change your tone and cast your Constitutional Right of Voting for who you are told (choice is not an option)...if you wish to stay on the site.

I doubt any of that will help many of us regain our "sanity" (and here I've always thought that we were the same ones.)

I am still working to get progressives into position to reclaim the Democratic Party back from the Goldwater Republicans. They don't get to pretend they share FDR's legacy when they completely oppose it and want to deconstruct it.

I support the Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party. It's the largest caucus in Congress, except for the two major party caucuses.

"But when faced with the prospect of banning half of my members, most of whom are going to regain their sanity once the primary is over and will undoubtedly do the right thing, we decided to give people the benefit of the doubt and let them stick around."

The tone of Hillary's campaign.

Now Do ya'll get it?

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Time will be better spent going to a place where we can grow and have actual discussions about our values that don't match what the Democratic Party's become if Hillary wins.

The same factions, essentially, (authoritarians v. progressives) were fighting about whether or not Ed Snowden is a patriot or a traitor.

Same sides, same bitterness, name calling, etc. from the authoritarians.

I Think people want a leader that can steer by themselves and lead people in the right direction as a nation while at the same time, keeping people involved.

I also find that there are so many who really don't know Bernie.

over his Democratic challenger because they were super dooper sure Crist would beat Rubio. Charlie of course said Palin was more qualified to be President than Obama. He was a Third Party Candidate. So 'never' in the TOS is a term of art meaning 'depending on financial need'.

I would never state anything about voting third party.

It is DemocraticUnderground.



How I will end up voting in November?

All I can say is I will not vote Hillary.

I may write in "Imelda Marcos" for President. Same thing as the Clinton Machine's stale offering...

Down Ticket, ONLY.

I don't care if there's a "D" or an "R" in front of a politicians name. If a democrat acts like a republican, I'm calling it out. If that gets me banned, oh well.

It's a private site and the owners can set the rules/get rid of anyone they want.

Hmmm...so that means that those who purchase a "Star" membership and/or buy Hearts...don't mean squat, other than being a source of money?

I'm stoked that most of us here seem willing to stand up for our ideals, rather than blindly falling in line like they expect us to do.

could always just let their star membership expire and just not put anymore money into Skinner's pocket ...

penny. Yes, you read right. I donated the smallest amount I needed to in order to get it.

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I've seen some say they would write Bernie in, which I guess would be a violation. But saying you won't vote for her isn't the same as advocating a third party. Skinner's post is condescending, to say the least. I'm sure he doesn't want to ban half the members because ultimately that would be money out of his pocket.

like twitter, where I can say what I want, when I want, the way I want.

I happen to think its the epitome of insanity to vote for someone who is currently under a criminal investigation.

think off, offhand. I believe he was referring to those voters not currently affiliated with the party. Since their choice will be represented, it seems moot. ? Not sure. Either that it or will be Debbie-gate, redux.

My only issue with this is that most of the people he is talking about actually support the candidate that reflects what a Democrat should be. How can anyone think a Democrat is someone that supports war, regime change, fracking, free trade, private prisons, $12 minimum wage, and not supporting LGBT equal rights for a majority of her life. Oh, and is against single payer insurance.

This is like a bad dream. We are criticized for wanting the best for everyone in this country or at the very least taking care of our fellow citizens. We feel this way, because it is the right thing to do.

Sorry, if we do not support moderate republicans. I thought this was Democratic Underground, not DINO Underground.

With that being said, I am supporting down ticket democrats and Bernie Sanders. Will not vote for Hillary along with my wife and my elderly parents. That is because we are Democrats and only support Democrats.

(Epic and Right On)...

We would have to Reagan our sanity to support Hillary.

I've been a member here for a long time. Not since the start, but too long to just bag it. I remember when DU was more liberal than I was by a country mile. It's been very disheartening for me to see the sharp rightward swing it's taken, not to mention the intent to stifle open discussion. We all come from different backgrounds, and different parts of the country. Regardless who are nominee is, we are going to differ on policy. Our local/state candidates are going to run on different issues, and in many cases - those are likely going to differ in some way, or be more relevant in others. So I basically asked what the tolerance of those discussions would be, because I do believe these are able to be discussed, and I received a response. It's long - but I didn't want to leave anything to chance in my post. Here you go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910220

The Democratic Underground Underground.

To use the word sanity in any realm to describe a political disagreement is egregious. It is telling someone because they disagree with you that you are not worthy of having an opinion.

It makes me understand why he supports the arrogant, dishonest, and condescending candidate. Way to go on throwing around your wallet Skinner!