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"He's Never Flip Flopped, Never Sold Out, Never Said NO to Social Justice ..... (Original Post) sabrina 1 Jul 2015 OP
k n r cui bono Jul 2015 #1
One can find his "real" sin in the final dependent clause. k and r Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #2
Lol, if that's sin, I'll take it. We are all sinners who do not ascribe to the Money God I suppose. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #3
One might think ... staggerleem Jul 2015 #16
Yes, but they ARE the gods they think. They are appointed to hoard money to keep it away sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #18
"Greed Is A Psychological Disorder" Divernan Jul 2015 #30
KnR nt chknltl Jul 2015 #4
Kickity Kick! SoapBox Jul 2015 #5
K & R and 100% true. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #6
The truth is so simple. And it's free, no need to spend millions on talking points sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #24
Hope was for 2008! bvar22 Jul 2015 #7
Indeed. What a great one. mother earth Jul 2015 #9
It is a great slogan. Justice and Progress for 2016! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #22
Kicked and recommended to the Max for justice and progress! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #8
Kicking for justice, progress and Bernie~ democrank Jul 2015 #10
Woo Hoo libodem Jul 2015 #11
One great big Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2015 #12
I am ENRAGED ! ! ! at the derogatory use of the term "flip-flopped" ! ! ! Divernan Jul 2015 #13
Lol! To think he may never have 'flip flopped'! That's just un-American! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #17
I'm so triggered! my head's spinning! you brocialists are all the same! MisterP Jul 2015 #19
And Jesus n/t mikehiggins Jul 2015 #27
that delusional PINKO! you know he started WWII! MisterP Jul 2015 #29
Speaking of footwear, someone reminded me of your post when they pointed out that sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #23
His comfortable shoes AND his thinking cap. merrily Jul 2015 #26
K&R passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #14
Beautiful! Justice & Progress 2016- I love it! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #15
K & R L0oniX Jul 2015 #20
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #21
Justice and Progress. eom JEB Jul 2015 #25
K & R LWolf Jul 2015 #28
kick Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #31
I Love it! Paka Jul 2015 #32
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. One can find his "real" sin in the final dependent clause. k and r
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jul 2015

Matter of fact... it's his ONLY "sin".

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
16. One might think ...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jul 2015

... that holding excessive amounts of money captive would be a sin against the money god (no caps needed for false gods, right?)

Apparently, that's something else we don't get to know until the afterlife.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Yes, but they ARE the gods they think. They are appointed to hoard money to keep it away
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jul 2015

from the little people who clearly would not know how to use it wisely!

Seriously, the greed is simply astounding.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
30. "Greed Is A Psychological Disorder"
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:28 PM
Jul 2015

This piece was written back in 2010, and the level of greed and transfer of wealth has become exponentially greater since then, imho.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/natural-lefty/blog/2010/10/greed-psychological-disorder

One of the most difficult categories of psychological disorder to treat, are the personality disorders. One of the best known of the personality disorders is Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is a disorder of lack of conscience. People who have it tend to behave atrociously, manipulating others for their own benefit, without conscience, and often breaking the law in the process. It is easy to see how such a personality would lead to greedy behavior. However, there is another personality disorder which can easily be confused with Antisocial Personality Disorder, called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. There are differences between the two disorders in terms of the world views of those who have them, their goals, and their life experiences. People who have Antisocial Personality have a life history of a troubled family life, including most likely financial difficulties. Those who have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, on the other hand, view the "world as their oyster." They tend to be children of privilege, people who "were born with a golden spoon in their mouths." They think that life should be great for themselves, and is great for the most part, but should be a life of hardship for the unannointed masses. They make lots of ambitious plans, political and economic -- all of a greedy and power-grabbing or power-keeping nature. (If this description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder reminds you of many of our current politicians, it should.)

Of the two types of greed-producing disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder is more dangerous because it leads to massive accumulation of resources, money, and power in the hands of a few unethical persons. While it is true that some people with Antisocial Personality Disorder end up becoming inordinately wealthy and/or powerful, it is far more common for people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder to be born, or become that way. They are generally born of a social position which makes enormous wealth and power far more likely. Also, they are more forward looking, and likely to make plans and efforts toward the acquisition of wealth and power. Furthermore, they are in a position, unlike the typical antisocial person, to do so legally, through knowledge of and manipulation of the law. I believe that it is a massive takeover of the United States, and as much of the world as they possibly can, by a cadre of predominantly narcissistic, greedy people which we have seen evidenced during the past several decades, perhaps aided by some antisocial recruits. Some may argue that the world has always been dominated by narcissists, but I would say that this is not the case, and that opportunities for wealth and power grabs by the greedy have increased as the human population and our technological capabilities have increased.

According to Social Psychologist Roy Baumeister, narcissism is getting worse in the United States, & reaching epidemic proportions. (For a review of some relevant self-esteem research, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-esteem .) In my view, this is an outgrowth of our nation's military success and status as the world's greatest superpower. According to Baumeister, the emphasis on promoting self-esteem regardless of accomplishment, fosters narcissism. The thinking about self-esteem goes, having it makes us confident, feel good about ourselves, and thus, happy and motivated to accomplish much in life. However, as Baumeister has found, endlessly promoting self-esteem in children actually results in them having inflated self-concepts not supported by reality; thus, they come to live in a delusional fantasy land in which they are "stars" who all deserve to have spectacular success.
Another psychological disorder which is related to greed is hoarding. The most damaging form of hoarding is money hoarding, yet this is routinely done by those who can and desire to do so, and celebrated by society and in publications such as Forbes Magazine and the Wall Street Journal. The richest among us have far more money that they could possibly ever need, or even use, but to them it is a game in which the richest one is the "winner." If we are to even casually consider where all this money comes from, it is immediately apparent that it comes from people who are not rich, people such as the United States' shrinking middle class, and that the rich are simply draining resources built by the sweat of others.

As a consequence of the previous consideration of psychopathology, greed itself is a form of irrational behavior which should be considered a psychological disorder when too extreme. Greed is irrational and maladaptive because it hoards resources which the hoarders neither need, can use, nor deserve. Greed is also irrational and ultimately maladaptive because it represents a self-delusional mindset typified by Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or possibly Antisocial Personality Disorder.

However, greed differs from any of the previously mentioned disorders in that the pursuit of financial wealth takes on a life and a power of its own, a power which can take over, and in some cases, ruin, a person's life, but more importantly, can lead to the ruin and/or degradation of many innocent person's lives. Greed is also correlated with the need for power and influence over others, which leads to people being drawn to politics for the wrong reasons. Money also stacks the political odds in favor of the rich, as we are seeing play out in American politics now. Until we have a system which does not allow excessive wealth or poverty of any one individual, until we have a system which does not allow the conflation of money and power, we will continue to have a corrupt political system which disproportionately draws from among the greedy and favors the greedy among us. Once we identify greed as a psychopathological behavior, and divest the political system of the greedy and the effects of greed, it will be as though we are waking up from a nightmare, to see a beautiful new day of social harmony and shared prosperity. - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/natural-lefty/blog/2010/10/greed-psychological-disorder#sthash.DpIhOkKY.dpuf


- See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/natural-lefty/blog/2010/10/greed-psychological-disorder#sthash.DpIhOkKY.dpuf

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. I am ENRAGED ! ! ! at the derogatory use of the term "flip-flopped" ! ! !
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jul 2015
(Nowadays, one must preface posts like the following with the caveat that it is sarcasm, folks, and posted in anticipation of a flood of desperate defenses of political flip-flopping, i.e, "evolving". And if it needs saying, the fact that Bernie does not flip-flop is magnificent and makes him nearly sui generis among today's politicians. That's a sociological term from my grad school days, associated with Emile Durkheim, and translates as follows: Sui generis is a Latin phrase, meaning "of its (his, her, or their) own kind; in a class by itself; unique" )


IN DEFENSE OF FLIP FLOPS

Flip flops have been a revered style of footwear worn by the people of many cultures throughout the world, originating as early as the ancient Egyptians in 1,500 B.C. The modern flip-flop descends from the Japanese zōri, which became popular after World War II when soldiers returning to the United States brought them back. They became popular summer footwear among both genders during the 1960s, 1990s, and 2000s, and some varieties have even found their way into more formal attire, despite criticism.

Flip-flops provide the wearer with protection from hazards on the ground, such as hot sand at the beach, hot sidewalks, glass, thumb tacks or even fungi and wart-causing viruses in locker rooms or community pools.

I cannot believe that DU has sunk to the depths of castigating this functional, universally respected footwear. Have you at last, sir (or madam) no shame ?!?!?! I call upon all decent DUers, in the spirit of the late, great Winston Churchill, to join me and

wear flip-flops with growing confidence and growing strength,
whatever the cost may be (although they're really modestly priced),
we shall wear them on the beaches,
we shall wear them at the indoor rallies,
we shall wear them in the fields and in the streets,
we shall wear them to the polls;
we shall never surrender our flip-flops
and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this country or a large part of it were subjugated and starving and unable to afford flip flops, then our fellow flip flop wearers across the seas, armed and guarded by the vast number of U.S. troops stationed abroad, would carry on the grand tradition, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth again in flip-flops to the rescue and the liberation of the old.”

This rant is dedicated to all concern trolls everywhere, with thanks to Winnie and also Emily Litella.
http://www.presentationmagazine.com/winston-churchill-speech-we-shall-fight-them-on-the-beaches-8003.htm

P.S. Anyone else miss Equal Time With Bob Boudelang? He was the king of sarcasm.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
19. I'm so triggered! my head's spinning! you brocialists are all the same!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jul 2015

and do you know who else didn't change his mind?
HITLER

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. Speaking of footwear, someone reminded me of your post when they pointed out that
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:33 AM
Jul 2015

Bernie had 'always had his comfortable shoes on'.

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