And I am very worried about Hillary's willingness (eagerness) to use military intervention as opposed to diplomacy. I don't trust her at all.

in which Sanders supporters will eventually be willingly folded into the Hillary fray.

People who write drivel like this are clueless about the paradigm shifts that have happened within the Democratic party; and also within politics in general.

It's now Establishment vs. Anti-Establishment. The corruption and horrific policies of establishment candidates (in both parties) has been outed. We will no longer just "fall in line". We're looking for candidates who aren't corrupt and beholden to corporate interests. And they have to actually give a shit about the middle class.

In 2008, the anti-establishment, activist portion of the Democratic party went for Obama. The Establishment (Hillary) types were talked over to Obama's side. So much has happened in the last eight years. The chasm between Anti-Establishment/Establishment is much, much deeper as political corruption has worsened. The screwing over of the middle class and the big party of corruption between dirty politicians, corporations, powerful interests and millionaires is on full display.

The cross over of the Bernie/anti-establishment voters to Hillary is just not going to happen like it happened with Obama. Anyone who so blind to the differences between now and 2008--has no business writing about or commenting on politics. They don't have a clue.

was the inspirational candidate, he was the candidate that was motivating the voters so it was easier for supporters of other candidates to transition to him.

In 2016 that candidate is Bernie. Hillary is not motivational at all. If Bernie drops out, the motivation will be lost because his voters have nowhere else to go; they may transfer that motivation to down ticket candidates but it will not automatically transfer over to her.

I'm not saying it as good as he did, but how true is that?!

Hillary is same old same old establishment business as usual that this cycle is about outsiders. I'm not at all certain the insider Hillary can beat the outsider Trump. And I'm pretty certain the establishment doesn't care who wins out of those two.

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She offers no excitement at all.

Who in the hell believes anything she says?

According to the latests polls, 30 percent of America thinks she's trustworthy.

It doesn't matter what she promises or what she says.

I'm done voting against myself and my family. I am drawing the line, and standing for something, I'm done falling for every stupid line these people come up with.

if they think they're going to convince anyone that any of that is actually going to happen. There is
no Jedi mind trick strong enough to convince Sanders voters to switch their enthusiasm and support
to HRC. It's wishful thinking on their part and I hope they aren't holding their breath.

Her one and only selling point is that she's not Trump. Period. End of story. And it's not enough.

Obama was the last clothespin-on-the-nose vote for me. I just can't do it anymore. The real thing is here
and even without her tons of baggage Clinton fatigue is too strong. I know I'm not alone.

The way HRC acted towards Obama in '08 combined with her SoS shenanigans, the Clinton Foundation
pay-for-play, email-gate, two FBI investigations, leaning on civil rights activists to suggest Bernie didn't
walk the walk back in the day when he so obviously did. That was so slimy and it obviously came from
her camp so she can kiss my vote good-bye on that dirty trick alone.

The scandal-plagued neocon is going to have to go after disaffected Trump voters because the left knows
her too well and we're not going to get played yet again.

"Hello! Please vote for the person who laughed merrily at the blood on her hands, smiled hugely and said oh, gee, I made a bad choice! Choices are HARD! Read my book!"

Hello? Hello?

Hell no.

Win us with honey? We know she lies. This is just insulting, really.

and to them I offer a hearty echo of what that gent hollered out at a recent Bernie rally: "Tell 'em to F*** Off!"

The "BernieBro" narrative was created by Hillary and is sexist. I still get people saying to stop being sexist to her, but after all this shit, their cries of wolf should be rejected vehemently.

No way will I give a penny to her or work for her. Still on the fence as to whether I can find a clothes pin big enough or tight enough to cast a vote for her. Time will tell.

The entire conversation from now until November will be we must stop Trump. If you're not helping Hillary you're not stopping Trump. It's your fault letting Trump win. Trump is evil. Trump would ruin the country. Even republicans are scared of Trump. Trump is like Hitler. How can you support Trump (by not donating, volunteering and voting for Hillary?) Forget policy. It's all "No Trump!" from now on.
Will that win over Bernie supporters? Maybe not. But it might scare enough independents, and 'reasonable' republicans. Who knows? Haven't you already had friends resigned to Bernie's loss stare at you aghast at the idea you might not fall in line and put your support behind Hillary?

the subject. Some people I love enough not to fight with, but I have to say my tongue hurt from biting it so hard

You handled it well though by changing the subject. It's going to be a crazy election cycle. No need to lose friends. Besides, your vote is private.

What do they think's going to happen if we no longer spend time promoting him, and devote more time exposing establishment corruption? Hell, it won't just be Hillary, possibly the whole party under scrutiny.

Not going to happen.

for Hillary or her army of internet trolls and no amount of pretending to be nice will make a difference. They're on their own when it comes to placing her in the White House.

Just because of a royal decree from an entitled Multimillionaire queen of the Oligarchy has issued such a decree from her majesties court.

They must be pretty stupid to think I would - after the kicked me out of the party (without my knowledge, request, or even a notification that they were going to change my affiliation from Democrat to NPA) just to purge me from the NYS primary rolls disallowing my first vote in the primary since I joined 37 years ago.

In all that time the only election I missed was in 2002 because I was in the hospital, not only did I vote every two years straight ticket for them, but I even voted in every one of the small local elections in-between.

They treated my loyalty like toilet paper and wanted me to become an Independent, well I will stay the Independent you've made me, be careful what you wish for Hillary I took the hint when the party kicked me out and will only vote for good candidates no matter the party, since neither Hillary or Trump are good candidates neither meet my brand new criteria, if the party wants my vote in any election, run good candidates, not ones you consider evil but slightly less evil then the other candidate. For this presidency, run Sanders if you want my vote!

but they have not earned us.

My efforts will remain behind Bernie AND down ballot candidates that understand that Feeling the Bern means supporting Bernie's policies, a more liberal America vs a Third Way one, essentially Bernie's platform.

Oh and my efforts will also go to getting rid of the likes of DWS and any other super delegate that has shown their Third Way colors in this primary season. Their chains of being beholden either need to be broken or they need to be removed from office and or stripped of their status within the Democratic Party.

That is what happens during a Revolution.

I can't believe the actions of the Hill Shills and their nasty, condescending attitudes. I'm not any more scared of trump than I am of her. I don't think she has any desire to govern...she just has an enormous ego, she's power hungry and wants to use her position to continue to line her pockets. Not much difference between her and trump.

I'm not stupid. I'll admit to being a little crazy, but that doesn't allow me to roll over for Hillary. Fuck her. Fuck Bill (ewww). Fuck DWS and the DNC establishment.

It's Bernie all the way. If he's not on the ballot in November, then there are Dems downticket I can vote for. But I think the only way he's not on the ballot is if there is cheating. I expect them to try, but I don't think the people are going to stand for this shit anymore. The American Spring has come, and the people will be in the streets.

entitled to believe that we want anything to do with helping her. Oh, and btw, Hillary camp - we are still trying to get BERNIE elected -NOT YOU!!

IF it ends up being Hillary and Trump, I not only will refuse to help her, I will more than likely tune out until after the election. I can garden, learn the piano, paint, maybe even travel a little. Anything but help her!