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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Fri May 6, 2016, 06:42 PM May 2016

Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton will Hold Fundraiser in Israel on May 17

Foreign money injected into our political process? Hum?

Sarah Bard, Hillary Clinton’s director of Jewish outreach, will headline a fundraiser in Tel Aviv, Israel on May 17. Is this okay with you?

In fact, there’s been a lot of Israel news in the primary process lately and I’m going to play catch-up on it here.

First, this just in. Hillary Clinton is going to have a fundraiser in Tel Aviv. Her Jewish outreach director will hold it. Remember that Clinton has pledged Haim Saban to fight the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement aimed at Israel, so she’s putting her money raising where her mouth is.

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2016/04/22/presidential-candidate-hillary-clinton-will-hold-fundraiser-in-israel-on-may-17/

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Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton will Hold Fundraiser in Israel on May 17 (Original Post) silvershadow May 2016 OP
Foreign money injected into our political process *again* n/t arcane1 May 2016 #1
Tel Aviv is just 10 hours by private jet headonshoulder May 2016 #2
Cut it out. dwrjr May 2016 #3
money money money oldandhappy May 2016 #4
Get ready for US troops fighting Israel's wars. thereismore May 2016 #5
She probably has Iran on speed dial- the app next to silvershadow May 2016 #10
Sure, and its ok to go across the world to grift for campaign money arikara May 2016 #6
Hasnt she pledged to give THEM 30 billion dollars of taxpayer money? Baobab May 2016 #7
Chels did London...some guy did Mexico City... SoapBox May 2016 #8
She has to, real people aren't going to give to her campaign. Kittycat May 2016 #9
I hope she gets as much grief as they tried to give Bernie for going to the Vatican. nt silvershadow May 2016 #11
Of course not. And she's going for a money grab. Kittycat May 2016 #13
This is ALL so EXHAUSTING deepestblue May 2016 #12
southern poverty law center Mosby May 2016 #14
veterans news now is not veterans today passiveporcupine May 2016 #18
they state on their website that they are part of veterans today Mosby May 2016 #21
Sorry, but being anti zionist is not anti-semitic. It's actually the middle ground where passiveporcupine May 2016 #22
bernie is a Zionist Mosby May 2016 #23
These days Zionism is seen by many as less to do with peace Ghost Dog May 2016 #26
No, anti-zionists believe that Isreal does not always have the right to use force passiveporcupine May 2016 #27
Some serious issues with this. Behind the Aegis May 2016 #15
Maybe she should stay there Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #16
If people in Israel have dual citizenship, passiveporcupine May 2016 #17
Subtle. TeeYiYi May 2016 #19
Just what we need... malokvale77 May 2016 #20
They want her so they can get all the military toys they want. Left Coast2020 May 2016 #24
You just know she and Bill have had Bibi on speed dial for years now, as is... silvershadow May 2016 #25

dwrjr

(24 posts)
3. Cut it out.
Fri May 6, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

Maybe she can give them a speech telling them to cut it out. Then they would probably give her back some of our billions.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
6. Sure, and its ok to go across the world to grift for campaign money
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

but get yourself invited to make a speech about income inequality and all insanity breaks loose.
But hey, maybe she'll hide behind potted plants and accost donors in the bathroom.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. Chels did London...some guy did Mexico City...
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:51 PM
May 2016

and the former Goldman Sucks guy did Hong Kong.

Those are just the ones that I've heard of...now I can add this one.

And how much of these monies aren't even reported or accounted for?

It's all absolutely rotten to the core...any going to those down line candidates, Hill?

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
9. She has to, real people aren't going to give to her campaign.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:55 PM
May 2016

She represents the 1% and businesses, they can only give so much.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
13. Of course not. And she's going for a money grab.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

Totally different, but what else is new with her. When did anything (like her job) stop her from sticking her hand out.

deepestblue

(349 posts)
12. This is ALL so EXHAUSTING
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:16 AM
May 2016

For the good of nearly every man, woman and child on earth in addition to the animals and the environment, I hope the principled candidate - the most principled candidate since FDR - will become the nominee. It would be a minimum 45 state cakewalk for Bernie.

Mosby

(16,320 posts)
14. southern poverty law center
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

Says that veterans today is a hate site, you should consider deleting your OP.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2011/01/06/buyer-beware-veterans-today-and-its-anti-israel-agenda

They are also a CT site and are partnered with rense.com, which is explicitly banned from DU.

Look at the bottom of their front page.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
18. veterans news now is not veterans today
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

There is another source for this news. A web link from an "anti-zionist", not "anti-semitic". Wiki does not call it a hate site, although a few people who are strong for Israel do.

http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/clinton-will-hold-fundraiser-in-tel-aviv/

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
22. Sorry, but being anti zionist is not anti-semitic. It's actually the middle ground where
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:27 PM
May 2016

other lives besides Israeli's are considered worthy too. Mondoweiss is anti-zioinist, NOT anti-semitic. The guy who produced and edits it is anti-zionist like Bernie is, and if you think you can call Bernie anti-semitic and still have any credibility here...well, forget about it.

Mosby

(16,320 posts)
23. bernie is a Zionist
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:08 PM
May 2016

He thinks Israel has a right to exist in peace and security. That's basically Zionism, whether he want to use the word or not is irrelevant.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-israel-and-the-palestinians/

Anti-Zionists are bigots who don't think national rights should be extended to the Jewish people.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
26. These days Zionism is seen by many as less to do with peace
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:46 AM
May 2016

and security in Israel, more with aggression and insecurity in the illegally occupied territories of Palestine and beyond.

Advocates of Zionism view it as a national liberation movement for the repatriation of a persecuted people residing as minorities in a variety of nations, to the homeland to which they had a historical connection.[9][10][11] Critics of Zionism view it as a colonialist,[12] racist[13] and exceptionalist[14] ideology that led advocates to violence during Mandatory Palestine, followed by the forced exodus of Palestinians, and the subsequent denial of their human rights.[15][16][17][18] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
27. No, anti-zionists believe that Isreal does not always have the right to use force
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

He does believe Israel deserves to have it's own nation and defend itself. He also believes that Palestinians have the right to live in peace and not been constantly killed in attacks by Israel. amd their territory constantly invaded by settlements.

A Zionist is pro "Israel no matter what". Bernie wants to support both sides.

Many people think that anti-zionist means anti-semite, but it doesn't necessarily mean that.

Bernie is for Israel, but not for their tactics that keep the war going with the Palestinians.

Behind the Aegis

(53,962 posts)
15. Some serious issues with this.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

Last edited Sat May 7, 2016, 09:14 PM - Edit history (1)

First, the site is associated with the "Veteran's Today" 'news' group and it is highly unreliable and conspiratorial. The founder (Gordon Duff) is an anti-Semite. It is also associated with Rense.com, which is a virulently anti-Semitic site, and both sites engage in Holocaust revisionism. Supporters of a Jewish candidate, who had family murdered in the Holocaust, should really steer clear of using sites which promotes anti-Semitism and questions the Holocaust.

Second, I have looked and looked, so maybe someone else will have better luck, but I haven't found a single story about this and this "news" item is from two weeks ago. At some point, this would have made it to some other form of media. The link "proving" the assertion, which is a twitter account, is no longer viable. The only places I can find this "story" is on indisputable anti-Semitic sites like Stormfront and National Vanguard (which is claiming it isn't true, which is a shocker).

Third, there are American democrats in Israel, so a "fundraiser" shouldn't necessarily be out of the question; however, democrats in Israel have already voted, and they said "SANDERS!" (he won Israel over Clinton).

Fourth, and finally, this isn't what most people think it is. It isn't a straight up, informative news story, it is a hit-piece, and while I don't care for Clinton, didn't vote for her in Oklahoma, and still support Sanders to the convention and beyond, this type of baiting is disgusting and bigoted. This isn't about "Israel" as it is more about "unholy Jew power."

I don't want foreign interests being placed above our own, and I say that as a pro-Israel person (Zionist), but people need to learn to distinguish between legitimate concerns and dog-whistling, and this article is nothing but a kennel at ear-piercing levels!

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ETA: It was bothering me all day, but I had other things to do. I thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but I really couldn't find any mention other anti-Semitic sites. I don't know why. However, it has been brought to my attention Bard is going to be in Israel, though it still appears Clinton is not. I still stand by my other comments that this source is poison and an alternative source should be used. "Veterans Today" is a rancid webring of sites, anti-Semitism being only one of their bigotries.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
17. If people in Israel have dual citizenship,
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

don't they have the right to donate and vote in our elections?

Just asking. I don't know for sure, but I suspect they do.

So, how do you know this fund raiser isn't for American citizens living in Israel?

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
24. They want her so they can get all the military toys they want.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:10 AM
May 2016

Clearly not interested in ANY peace negotiations.

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