...and this Site.

Many just joined in April when Brock started to pay.

Taking dictation from Brock is hard work.

I can not understand the locking of the last one for sure

(a Hillary supporter) was that my title was "meta" I have designed a plan to resurrect it, I need a poster to post it for me slightly revised o remove meta excuses, I would repost it myself but based on the tone of the PM received by the host regarding my request to explain why it was off topic .. ending believe it or not with, "I will not answer your PMs again" the person would lock it again out of personal animosity toward me. even tho we have never met.

If they lock it again, there will be no reasonable cause, as I have modified it slightly, I only need to email it to a willing poster and an effort for those that think it should be read to rec it as would be normally appropriate.

(I need to email at least the body of the text, as I tried in an experiment to email it to myself and it can not simply be cut and pasted but all the formatting would have to be redone, as in a PM it comes out as it would in the post, that would take way too much work to reproduce.

I want to make it easy as cut and paste for my surrogate and I want it recognizable (save the potential meta excuses) so everyone will know the score.

I want it to be my last post here until/if I ever wish to return again and I want it recced so that even lurkers will see it on the front page, there is too much valuable information in that OP and I want it to be the last thing I write and want people to see the facts, I care not one whit about personal credit!

We are just posters, not Hosts or Admins.

jackpineradicals.org.

Be safe.

... but everywhere. I love your posts and feel you are a sane voice of reason here. I want you to be safe and feel safe, though. I hate seeing bullies win.

I DO hope you will not leave.

But.. either way.....it is a hard fight and you have more guts than I do.

I also am not used to being alerted on several times a day and find it tiring.

should remember the center will not hold...Yeats.

But they are ruining this site, so many great posters have already been driven off or PPRd this last couple of years, some could argue, I Certainly would, that those lost before me were among our best and brightest,

But with the way things are going either like this or on their own others are following suit. I think this site will become a ghost town after the primaries. Especially if Clinton actually pulls it off.

Your absence will have an effect.

--imm

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beyond posting cut dog pictures like this one (my Jackie girl)

And what's wrong with that?



(Apologies to Paul McCartney)

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Cute

Someone mentioned another site. Many of us are on that site. I hope to see you there. And please come back when Bernie is our nominee.

But I will also continue to fight for this party until then!! It is indeed a steep challenge but let's do this!

of people in the US. I've gotten so fed up with all politics I'm now unaffiliated, but I will continue to vote democratic by the candidate. In no way do I want the DNC/DLC/DWS to think I'm one of their guppies.

It's the only logical thing to do. If Bernie loses then that must ultimately mean more people are happy with the party and see no corruption. The majority will want the party to remain the same. So why fight to change a party that doesn't want change? That has the power to mute people within their own party that goes against them? That trys to trick people into donations while at the same time still getting big money from corporations. Their greed knows no bounds. Yet most people would actually fight against us to change it. Normal people. We'd be much more successful at creating a new Party.

party has left me. Millions feel the same.

since Bill Clinton's presidency and didn't understand what had happened to the Democratic Party. (I voted for him twice. ) I'm not that political a person. There are other things I'm much more interested in. Ironically, I only found out what the Third Way and DLC were about after I joined DU in 2012!

friends were clueless too. I generally find politics boring and unnecessary in the big picture, but I watch because of an instinct for survival. Bernie is one of the few glimmers of hope I've seen. The democratic party has morphed into something unrecognizable.

Those that vote for hawkish Neo-Liberals such as Clinton are not in denial, they are simply not at all like the Democrats of the pre "intellectual leveraged buyout of the Party" by the Koch funded DLC, beginning before, but put actively into legislative practice by William J. Clinton and his DLC allies with the assist of Newt Gingrich beginning in 1992 (Welfare destruction, deregulation and tough on mostly minority crime bills) were passed with a purpose, one that continues unto our present day.

I will fight in other ways but with nearly every post being alerted on, nearly everyday, the hides will pile up, by my estimation 1 in 20 or 30 have been successful. But they are stacking the deck even more and I am thee main project right now, they want me gone and they want me gone for good now!

Since the GDP Hosts have joined in to provide censorship, just how effective do you think I can be?

It is time to withdraw or they will harass me into a very unstable state that will produce a post that will get me banned.

breaks are good

you are a good poster

fuck the fascist......... yeah they are
even though they don't see that they are

GDP has some psychotic posters

You may not realize this but it is actually quite hard for me, I have a broken keyboard with several sticky keys and 4 that only work when they feel like it, am borrowing bandwidth from a friend that streams a lot making it slow sometimes (one of the reasons I am often more active in the wee hours of the morning).

I lack training in writing skills
lack education
and now lack will.

Every post I write takes much longer than you might think after fixing all the keyboard malfunctions and thinking carefully due to my lack of education and training.
Why bother?

also many of you are much better posters anyway, I am not really needed.

...don't sell yourself short. You are one of the most thoughtful and eloquent posters here on DU. You are a great asset here, even if you are only able to post now and then.

Take good care, and hope to see you around somehow soon.

PM me and maybe we can figure something out.
You have better writing skills than you think and you are knowledgeable. It is those trying to drive you out that lack the education.

I will pm you about that.

Don't sell yourself short. Your posts always stand out as very articulate, concise and informative. You are needed. Maybe not here because DU is a shithole now, but you and your voice are always needed.

.

I lack training in writing skills
lack education

also many of you are much better posters anyway,

I am not really needed.

I was planning to stay until the nomination, but ... well, just don't feel comfortable anymore.

this place may dry up. Wonder how many of Brock's minions will stay on after the election and become donors....

who lurks more than posts, though I've been more active this primary season. I have withheld my donation this year because the admins announced their support of Hillary before a single vote had been cast, something they've never done before. Then they announced the creation of Hillary Mojo. I get most of my news here, so for that reason I'd like to support DU, but on the other hand, I don't want my money going to Hillary Mojo or anything else Hillary.

I don't understand why they locked your thread on the Bernie record in GDP? That was not off topic?

I will certainly miss having you post. Hopefully I will see you on Jackpine. What's bizarre is that so many of the people who post real content are the ones that are "encouraged" to leave. The people who post one or two hit lines get to stay but the ones who actually put a lot of thought and work into posts are the ones who are not wanted. Posts with a lot of content are one of the biggest draws for me.

I'm very sorry to see you go. Thank you for your many enjoyable posts.

I appreciate the time and thought you put into those posts and yes I do honor you for that.

The bullying around here has gotten out of hand.

Don't let them win.

I contacted a gdp host that is a friend, that told me confidentially that GDP has been taken over by Hill fanatics at the hosting level, I can no longer be effective here, every post being alerted is tiresome and now outright censorship, I simply can no longer be effective and could do without the stress regarding this windmill.

I have played Quixote on many occasions in my life, but I have grown weary, forgive me, but I am too tired to deal with all this shit at once. At least right now.

that is direct, strong-arm bullying and cause for removing that host.

RIP, DU.

but because of the system they use, they are a literally protected small group of people acting as one.

...and the rest of the hosts can go fuck themselves....

It is truly fucked up, but a clue as to how this place will be run, post-Hillary coronation purge...

Take a break. Do other things. Then come back to fight the good fight.

Good luck to you whatever you decide.

Sadly they never respond to my frustrations about the sexist and racist remarks by the HRC crew, and they lock the threads if I try to start a discussion on it.

almost 700 hundred times in just three months in the Hillary group is determined to lock my posts, I can no longer be effective, even if only 1 in 20 alerts results in a successful hide 2 closely together enough (I forget if it is 24 or 48 hours apart) puts you "on review" - a place of limbo that serves as the new "time out" where members linger for several weeks now, or a few hours depending on who "you know".

Not to mention the home threat really pissed me off! it had the opposite effect of "frightening me" and in my anger, with continued harassment they will succeed in my posting something they can use as an excuse to ban me.

If this creature comes to harm, hell, I will be facing murder charges! She is like my daughter to me!

... for posts that, at least in my mind, didn't violate any of the rules of the forum.

I know I'll never change the minds of Hillary's devout backers but also know that real, live, non-sockpuppet people join here every day, and those are the ones I'm trying to reach.

So I stay on DU and will continue to fight, just as I stay in Wisconsin and continue to fight against Squat Wanker and his goon squad. Call me stubborn. And we need stubborn people on our side.

Regardless of what you choose to do, thanks for being on the side of good.

who am I to say anything about it? They want me and lots of us gone. But I'm not going to make it easy for them.

Hell, you're way more dangerous to them than I am. You're extremely informed with the facts and post serious material. Me, I just hit them back with the same sort of idiocy they spew for the most part.

Why give a shit about what they think? If they want to get rid of you- make them work for it.

You're one of the few reasons I still come back here. More and more of the best posters are leaving or getting kicked off while I hear the ones I have on ignore are racking up dozens of hides and still allowed to post.
Oh well, see you over at JPR anyhow it is a much more pleasant place to be.

Do you want to see your web site die at the hands of Clintonbots?

Old DUers, could we not massively re-post an unfairly blocked OP? Create many targets, so that it becomes obvious what is occurring?

Dragonfli, will you stick around and continue producing great content, if we can organize to support it? Or if Skinner responds positively with a remedy?

We are like many, many, many people in this country, who long for democratic reform, but who have to work very hard for a living, often at 2-3 shit pay jobs, along with other responsibilities, so we don't have a lot of time to participate and only have political strength if we pull together and organize--as, of course, the Sanders campaign is demonstrating.

Should we not do this at DU, rather than abandoning it to paid advocates and other unthinking cheerleaders? Is DU not worth saving? I think it is. But I can't do it alone. I work for a living and have other responsibilities, so I can't organize it, but I would be very willing to participate. Perhaps we need a special forum to discuss and strategize a rescue operation?

the "supernatural" series and no longer pays attention" and unlike the recent episode of supernatural, he will not appear in the end as "Chucky" the earlier character (I may have gotten the characters name wrong but...)

If the lock can be unlocked yeah, but don't get your hopes up, it's not gonna happen. Remember Skinner s a strong Hillary supporter and if he does pay attention, already knows full well what is going on and either does not care or approves the change of the character of the site towards a darker place.

I'm tiring of it more and more.

and come back.

So I do understand how you feel. It would just be a shame if you left after all this. An echo chamber seems to be what they want.

but it makes me sad anyway.

You're experiencing frustrations, fatigue, rejection, etc. Consider where it's coming from. No one here in the Bernie Group is doing that... and a very small portion of this board has an outsized influence here because of the admins. Also, there are paid trolls out and about with a million dollar budget, fighting to shut you up.

It's not individual eloquence that makes you a threat to them... its the fact that you're one more voice... one more vote... standing in dissent of the DNC's efforts to rig an election for Hillary.

Dragon fly's are one of my favorite insects.... they are swift, agile and alert. They know when to hide from danger and when to swoop in for a tasty snack... they also know when to break away from a hostile area for a bit.

Take a step back for a bit, breath... take no actions while emotions are running high... Maybe visit http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php for friendlier environs... Just, take a break for a bit. It's what I'm doing...and it's what I suggest you do.

I'd hate to see you disappear.... you're my favorite bug!

But I'm sure all of us will get swept out of here at some point. I stay here for news, but I know this place and our party will be dead after the convention.

It's been an honor.

For what it's worth, I found your posts to be well thought out and informative. But I understand the reasoning behind your departure. It is just really tiring to deal with the general unfairness and mean-spiritedness that has taken over.

Your voice will be missed.

and have always looked forward to finding your posts.

How I originally thought of you...



What is happening to you right now.....(this is rain)



How you emerge stronger...

I'm also a JPR and although I don't post much, I do lurk there and donate to to Sanders through them and to the website itself.

It is a true progressive liberal home for those that belief in true Democratic ideology!

Hang loose Dragon!

at JPR? I really enjoy your writing.

Whatever you decide, good luck to you and I hope to see you around!

to exceptional people. I hate to see you do it, but I certainly understand.

As many have said before me I have enjoyed your posts. I hope to see you at JPR.

People like me who have come over from the dark side, being a Republican, need a place to connect with like minded Progressives. I have learned a great deal being on here. I enjoy the posts and the discussions. I used to think that Progressives were naive and maybe not all that smart. OMG I was wrong wrong wrong. You guys kick ass. You are smart, reasonable, logical, supportive, and insightful. I am not happy to see what is going on but I will steer clear of that discussion as I am new and have no real right to say anything. I can say how enthusiastic I am to have unplugged from the Matrix, turn off Fox News, listen to TYT and Secular Talk and come on here to engage. I am not suggesting you stay. I get it. I am just giving you something to consider. Thanks for holding the line. Obviously you have been a leader. I admire the Progressive leaders I have met on here as you can see from this post.

influenced a lot of people. I especially like that the Dragonfly provides multiple perspectives.

Wherever you go Dragonfli, please keep writing, the world needs you.

On purpose because of native American mythology like your beautiful youtube describes! It was meant to reform me as I was reborn in my first Wiccan initiation ritual (where it is customary to choose one's Coven name because of tradition, dating back to when if one was caught they could not give real names they did not know under torture, in what is referred to in modern neopagan circles as "the burning times&quot

When wiccans meet theystill use their Wiccan names, I choose to use it also on every site I've ever posted on as well, one reason you will never see me post under another name no matter where you may find me.

Our small coven, (where my not yet wife introduced me to them and this ne to me subculture) was an eclectic one, that drew on teachings of Gardnerian, Alexandrian wicca sources as well as Native American Shamanistic teachings and buddhist thought.

I will gift you with it's proper spelling (which I would use if the proper character was ever developed for the computer)

No one here can diminish you.

i don't blame you...it looks like the lights are getting snuffed out one at a time...some people on DU just love the darkness, i guess...

there is an old barroom saying: "Fuck all but six of 'em...leave yourself some pallbearers!"

to which evolved the retort: "Fuck that...screw all of 'em...get cremated!"

Have a good one and i hope to see your writings elsewhere...

it has been nasty, especially lately, the 'underground' has been evolving into the big D establishment.

But take notice, there are many old time DU'ers that are not so compliant, just more measured in their words.

Your voice has meaning, also realize there is whole world outside of politics. Even on DU there are groups such as cooking, photography and health where it might be best to spend more of your time.

So never say never, adjust your sights and expectations ... maybe run with a different crowd

OP.

They are locked for not fitting a group is forum's Statement of Purpose, found under the "about this forum' button at the top right. Volunteer Hosts sometimes leave a reply saying why the post is being locked, or PM the Host who locked it asking for clarification why.

I really wish that phrase " off topic " wasn't inserted as it is often not the reason but causes a lot of confusion and hurt.

It was claimed to be "meta", but it spoke of the records (I researched and made nothing up) of the candidates and so it fit the purpose (which I have read) of GDP.

The truth is that host appears not to like me very much and I believe it has to do with my chosen candidate (I don't recall any exchanges with that poster at all, so no personal reason for such disike) and according to the profile the host is extremely active in the Hillary group. For what it's worth

Thanks for the info by the way, with dislike deciding locks, I can't repost even if I take out the bit where I mentioned being alerted on and receiving a warning to stop posting (Or the alerts would continue)

I didn't even mention the bit where the warning was received via snail mail to my home address (scary stuff for most, but having nothing of value and nothing to lose that home address part didn't scare me much).

My worry is that I have been given notice to leave or would be hounded off via constant alerts (which I receive on nearly every post and I don't write in a foul manner, which is why only about i in 30 are successful) and now apparently the harrasment is to include locking of posts by hosts.

I have been given n choice but to leave if I can't post effectively and have to constantly worry about stalkers. I know of you, and I know you realize how dangerous and stressful stalking and hatred can be on one, no matter the reason, method or cause, maybe it's because I'm multi-racial, or maybe because I am an old time Democrat in a "new" Democratic world, but this ends one of two ways, I leave, or they eventually stress me out to an unhealthy level finding thus a lame excuse to ban me.

I choose the more graceful option.

Good luck with your fights! you have won in many states, but the south is still quite cruel and ignorant, I hope you win every single battle in your lifetime, with youth enough to spare to enjoy the victory! It has always been an honor to read your posts even if I don't come across them often, they are always sincere and quite correct in sentiment.

I hope it'll settle down after the election, but it's not much fun right now except for some of the smaller groups.

Though I do understand and respect yours.

I hope nobody settles into any kind of complacency after the GE, regardless of the outcome.

Of course nobody posting to DU would be complacent after the GE if the R's win the presidency. In that case there'll be that bonded unity, as when * was president. Nevertheless, those weren't good times - our unity of spirit in opposition to * notwithstanding.

I think problems happened after Obama won and assigned Hillary Clinton, Rahm Emanuel, and the entire Clinton team to high positions, after which it was a continuation of * as usual but under a D. It wasn't "change". It wasn't.

Obama's second term, free of Clinton and Emanuel and a large part of that baggage, was better, but only "incrementally" so, and Hillary Clinton promises to put a dead stop to even that. After all, she's a neocon.

For my part, I don't see any way that Clinton can unite a Democratic party that's inclusive of Sanders' vision, or the vision of any progressive forward thinking person, so if she wins the primary and then wins the GE I see a decisive split. I see Clinton uniting with the "centrist right" to such an extent that the triangulation absorbs the "centrist Republican" faction, which includes Koch and Kagan and Kissinger and all the rest, down to the lowliest muckedy muck at Citibank. So the D's will be the new R's, meaning that it'll be time for a real opposition party to form.

Anyway, that's my thinking.

Hilary will be worse as she is more corporate and magnitudes more hawkish than Obama, It took me a long while to accept him after he changed his tune from his campaign rhetoric.

I still debate if the good outweighs the bad with him as he has done many good things, and is/was certainly better by far than the R alternative. I am not so sure any of that is true with Hilary, for one, I know she is a hawk as much so as Bush and Cheney and I can never support blood for money, I barely accept it for self defense, I will always take two punches rather than one (personally at least) before handing someone there ass physically, let alone ever support a killer of children.

Cluster bombs are a big hint regarding how little she discriminates between the death of innocent children and civilians to harm a few legitimate soldiers, everybody knows how devastating cluster munitions have been to civilians and very disproportionately so with children!

I also know she loves Pete Peterson's orgs. and she would not hesitate fucking up SS no matter what she is or has said.

I could never defend her from Republicans beyond the fake made up nonsense they use on all Democrats, but there is no honest defense for much of what she is, basically a smarter Bush wearing a pantsuit instead of a suit, I realize most disagree with me on this, but I could never do that.

She would have to prove me very very wrong about her and that is only if she wins - she is the weakest candidate we could possibly run, the only reason she even has a shot at a close win is the Jackass that Tump is.

There would be nothing left of the Bush era DU, most of our best posters are long gone, forced out like I'm being, tombstoned without good cause as some of our recent losses were that many still remember quite fondly. Others just slowly fading away little by little since the Neocons and neoliberals gained so much top down support here.

If I have to fight Republicans if she wins the primary and she loses the general, I will not be doing it side by side with all that will be left. Those nasty bullying half Republicans that now infest the Hillary group.

Everyone must realize they and more like them will be all that will be left of this place if Hillary is the crowned nominee for a good chance at a loss up and down the party ticket in a GE don't they? Does anyone really want to befriend the type of people that claim to be, but show constant hatred of liberal Democrats?

though I really do understand how you feel

I want it to be my last statement, but I can't post it myself (the host of GDP appears to have a personal problem with me).
I want it read by many, and I want the information I posted out there, because important states are coming up, We would have t exchange emails, but if you are game PM me.

I promise my plan should place you in no jeopardy

And the one that was hidden.

I totally understand why you're leaving and just want to post a string of profanities against the people doing this.

This is a sad day. See you later, however, at JPRs.

It isn't founded on antagonism to the left, to progressive and socialist ideas.

Don't bother with discussionist. It's owned by the identical third-way operators and is intended to give voice to those to the "right" of even Clinton, to provide what third-way describes as "balance" and "bipartisanship".

Don't go to any "leftist" or "democratic" site or forum owned by third-way. Esp. by David Brock, and those fuckers have totally infiltrated the net. But including KOS -- who is third-way to the $bone$.

I think it matters if the actual venue in which we discuss matters is owned by third-way operatives. It's fundamentally and almost by definition detrimental. The very fact of it makes for a form of meta-control, of $control$, by the exact party that we, as progressives who understand Sanders' platform, are opposed to.

So go to JPR. Relax among friends, and work with friends for positive ends.
Fritter away no more time responding/interacting with Brock's paid trolls on bought out third-way sites. They're paid to troll us for a reason. To keep us busy by wasting our time.

Sanders and esp. "Sanders' supporters" have been through a year of hell, being called racists, misogynists, sexist "Berniebro's" by the dirtiest internet-coordinated Dem primary campaign I've ever seen. These fuckers divided "economic justice" from "social justice" in the most cynical move imaginable - removing the foundation for reasonable discussion. They aren't interested in discussion and never have been. It's disgusting.

Leaving this place isn't a bad thing.

respond to everybody, but to those I haven't, I may yet tom. as I have one small furnished bit of something to log on again to attend to, If I can't

I Love you all and BERNIE WILL lead the political Revolution, just as he sad, with ALL OF US!

posts, dragonfli. will see you over at jpr ~ and i will add you to my list of special persons who are connected to the dragon and damsel flies....and all they teach us about transformation and dreaming.

in a good way, hopemountain

It's less restrictive than DU.

For the sake of the rest of us, please stay and fight. You are needed and valued at DU.

the software isn't quite as good at JPR (Jackpine Radicals) but you will be amongst friends. We would love to have you.

Just delete your bookmark for this place for awhile (whether a few days or a few weeks) - you can always come back later when things are calmer. I've done that a few times.

I used to read there almost every day, I am proud to say that three of my OPs there were promoted as Articles on the front page.

Look me up, same name there, I have a journal there as well, mostly the same stuff as here though. To be honest the last time I went there to post I was going to post this as an OP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511941536 before I ever posted it here and this one as well http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511670329

But there was a Banner that said not to post anything that might suggest Sanders could lose, Take the time to read that op, but although it was only a small part of the article, I did lay out some contingencies regarding what we could do and the likely outcome if he were to lose.

I haven't really been back there since, because I like to consider how to continue forward with the movement, even if he loses the primary, which I still believe he can, but it will Depend mostly on California and quite frankly I believe he is (were the election honest) at least tied already if not winning.

Call me a tin foil hat person, but I believe Hill and the party have been committing election fraud since nearly the beginning, one reason I believe this is that I (a Registered Democrat of 37 years voting every election, each two years as well as the in-betweener local elections (except in 2002 when I was in the Hospital) after all those warnings were posted when Arizona had thousands of complaints Including important in my case well documented "affiliation flipping" (or primary purges as some call them) decided to check online and found out all my information was correct, with the exception of Party: Democrat, I discovered somehow I am now NPA.

I did everything I could, first visiting my local city election board, then contacting Albany, but no one would budge, or offer any solutions on how I could avoid missing my first Primary ever. NYS is the worst Northern Sate regarding voting rights. I even had to ask three times (finally with a person of the highest power in my polling place) just to be able to cast an affidavit ballot (NYS term for provisional ballot). As we ll know those are placebo votes and are counted so rarely they may as well not exist at all. I contacted all the right firms, lawyers, the campaign and even the ACLU, but to no avail. So you can see where all the tin foil comes from. I believe in the end only NYC affidavit vtes were even looked at and only a small portion of them were counted and I live in Buffalo, large enough like Albany to bother tampering with and also the only three places she did well, strange, I live in a mostly minority poor neighborhood, ad apathetic votes asked me so many times while canvassing to help them register just to vote for Bernie, tat I made three seperate trips to get stacks of forms, and in my minority area against the Clinton narrative my canvassing produced at least a 70% preference for Sanders rater than Clinton, so the tin foil hat at this point has grown to a fashionable jacket.

Back to the original subject, My intention to post was completely pro Sanders, but if you take the time to read the post it was technically against the new TOS of JPR, even if it only spoke of IF rather than any certainty he might lose and I did not want to stomp mud on Mary's carpet. I like her very much you see.

It is a great place with great posters, but, I also felt more needed where the lurkers (who I really write for) may need convincing Regarding voting sanders against Clinton due to the media and propaganda, knowing all the readers and likely the lurkers at JPR already know he is the only real choice, from both the idealistic standpoint that he will work for the people and not whomever is paying best on each bill he signs, but also the pragmatic, as Hilary is a corrupt train wreck destined to lose a GE, and even if she won, among other things, we will face wars in Syria and Iran (which would then provoke Russia). Not to mention my belief that she would sell us down the river on both free trade and SS no matter her current Rhetoric.

I don't think I can post at JPR, since a part of my thought process is I consider often many potential outcomes and solutions, even how to move forward with the revolution, if there's a chance Sanders can have the primary stolen from him. Which according to he new banner I saw, meant I couldn't post that OP (that I still want you to read by the way)

I do agree with Mary's rule because I think it undercuts our position if we start posting what will happen if he loses (plays into their narrative). But I will definitely read your article and hope at some point you'll be back again.

Don't let these people here get to you. Just do your thing.

I hope you will check out Jackpine Radicals

being used right here. I always found your posts honest and thoughtful. Much respect to Dragonfli.