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jalan48

(13,883 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:12 PM May 2016

New World Order and the 2016 Election

I know it's been said by others, but after reading about the Wikileaks revelations concerning the upcoming corporate control of our public/governmental services I realized that this election is really a staged event between a soft and hard option. Hillary is the soft option, corporate control with some liberal social policies thrown in, while Trump is the hard option, you can either accept the New World Order or he's going to shove it down your throat (unlike Cruz and the other Christian nutcases Trump could care less about social issues). This is about open, corporate, world domination.

I've been wondering why he has received so much free media time over the past year, he could have easily been marginalized or challenged on his extreme positions by the media. My opinion is that his candidacy has intentionally been allowed to flourish because he's the bully the oligarch's want in power who will say, "Do what we tell you or else"-no debate. Hillary, like Obama is there to ease us into the change with platitudes of glass ceilings and little else (why her supporters can't argue economic issues). If elected, she will support the open corporate takeover of our political system while the public's attention is deflected by her ongoing scandals.

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bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
1. They are part of the New World Order.. and this is a staged event alright. Bill and Trump
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

are in it together. They discussed Trump running so Hillary would look good. Unbelievable. Trump is NOT stupid he is a con.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
3. After reading about Trump's claim that his campaign "is broke"
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

I was overtaken by an extremely unsettled feeling... bordering on dread. It's not that I hadn't taken the connection between Trump and Bill Clinton seriously before but now it all seems so much clearer.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
7. With the DNC Chair Admitting System Rigged Against Bernie
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016


Debbie Wasserman Schultz admitted in a CNN interview that the system of Super Delegates is purposely designed to protect establishment candidates and stop grassroots candidates, and is rigged for that very purpose. No gray area, she is quite clear. DWS needs to not only resign her position at the DNC but should seriously consider resigning her DEMOCRATIC membership as she is participating in a system that is inherently rigged and UN-Democratic. She admits she knows it, and continues to play it that way.

"Un-pledged (Super) Delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists."

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
2. Have been thinking about this a lot lately.
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

I agree with your assessment completely. If either the "soft option" or the "hard option" ends up president, no future president will ever be able to do what Bernie Sanders plans on doing if elected. The "free trade" agreements waiting to pass and/or be ratified will ensure that. The New World Order is a long way toward being completed and a candidate like Sanders was never supposed to have happened at this late stage in the globalist takeover. Wish even more people in this country understood just how high the stakes are.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. This wasn't supposed to happen this way
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

The original plan was Hillary/Jeb matchup. Both members of the Bush family, either way they win and the path continues unabated.

Then OWS showed up again as the Bernie campaign. That was not expected, and has still not been successfully tamped down yet.

The endgame is still the same though- corporate rule through trade deals. Not enough support for one world gov't? No problem, they'll just buy said gov'ts and privatize it.

jalan48

(13,883 posts)
5. I think the switch was made to Trump because of his personality. The media pushed Trump on voters.
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

We keep hearing it was because it was good for ratings. If that were the case Bernie would have been on 24/7-look at the turnout at his rallies. Trump's an authoritarian (Fascist). He's openly telling us to get in line or shut the fuck up. His ignorant followers love it because it makes them think they get some type of power in the bargain.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. Jeb wasn't getting any traction
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:08 PM
May 2016

Trump is a good ploy though because he doesn't actually want to win. He can throw the match and the Clintons owe him for his help in clearing the field for Hillary, and he walks away more popular and powerful than before.

I suppose it's supposed to be cute and clever, but it's boring and obvious kabuki to me...especially with Team Hill screaming at the top of their lungs about how we have to save the country from an Ally of the Clintons.

jalan48

(13,883 posts)
9. I agree-Kabuki it is. When American's start seeing their laws overturned by corporate tribunals
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

it will be too late. I'm sure a new cult of personality will arise to keep us dreaming of a better future or more likely a third world style repressive regime, the kind our government has been supporting around the world for decades.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
10. "The chocolate ration has been increased to 20gm!"
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:36 PM
May 2016

You see it happening already. Free college is impossible, and never happened in the history of ever. Single payer is also impossible, no country on earth has ever done it.

The powers that be have successfully framed sanity out of the equation. All that's left is their desires. Which are Holy(TM).

jalan48

(13,883 posts)
11. LOL @ the chocolate ration. How true. :)
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

We're entering a new form of governance that we haven't seen before (at least openly). American's are being weaned off of Democracy-we're broke, we can't afford it- or any other idea that the gullible public will lap up in between episodes of Wheel.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
12. Reading 1984 brought a lot of this into focus for me
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

And yes, the illusion of democracy is getting pretty thin. I'm not up on my Zappa, but I have seen this posted here before:

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
8. absolutely - and on many levels
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

the truth. bernie has vision - he knows - this is why he stepped into the race - for all of us to put a stop to what will surely drive all of this planet into the ground.

greed has only one goal: all of it! all of it! & all of it! when there is nothing left they will have already moved on to another planet or underground or where ever they are headed and we will not be with them because we will have been all used up.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
13. "soft" and "hard"
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

Donnie and the Clintons seek world domination.

The Clintons are softer in their approach while gradually using the Presidency and the Clinton Foundation as their instruments to rule the world. Corporations will still maintain limited power but will be forced to ultimately answer to the Clinton machine.These unfortunate businesses will now be required to present pleas (speeches) to the almighty Clintons and pay THEM millions for the privilege, quite the reversal.

Donnie's hard approach is more mysterious because he may just go straight for the jugular and demand that all global corporations "heel" to his supreme power. Here lies the problem with the Old Republican Guard because they know what a persuasive con man is capable of doing.

Neither of these rulers even give an iota of consideration to the people

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