Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSanders supporters are not necessarily Democrats
In fact, in the Seattle for Sanders group Democrats are a minority. The largest single group is young Socialist Alternative supportes who are working on Kshama Sawant's re-election campaign. Another significant group is people who have been alienated from electoral politics for many years. Those of us who are Democrats have managed to convey that Bernie can win in WA State only through the Democratic Party caucus system.
It's pretty clear to me that if Bernie does not get the nomination, Democrats will support the nominee of the party, but the non-Democrats will just stay home or vote for Jill Stein or someone similar. Not seeing any way to change that tact.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Or did it come pre-focus grouped?
Do you honestly think this transparen nonsense will drive Bernie's supporters away? A clue... it has the opposite effect.
eridani
(51,907 posts)The large number of Sanders supporters who are not Democrats won't. If you don't believe me, Seattle for Sanders meets in South Seattle this Sunday--come and check it out.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)It's truth, Hedda. People disheartened with the current election process don't vote unless there are unusual circumstances.
They are excited to see Bernie with a real shot at the White House, which you must admit is a bit unusual.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)When it comes to the general election, Bernie has tremendous appeal to the majority of voters, i.e, the independents/milennials, and will motivate them to get out and vote.
I truly believe that the clown car full of GOP candidates will cannibalize each other in the primary, giving Bernie a clear win.
But if HRC is the Dem. candidate? She'll motivate the GOP voters to come to the polls to vote against her. And all the Dem/independent voters fed up with the "You have to vote for the lesser of 2 evils" will not vote at all - and this will hurt the rest of the ticket for other Dem. offices.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)to support him in the primary?
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)In California, you can vote for Bernie in the primary if you are a registered Democrat or if you are a registered No Party Affiliation (formerly Decline to State). This is actually a good thing in that people who absolutely will NOT join the Democratic Party can be talked into the a NPA registration.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)My current state is a closed primary.
I lived in CA for 38 years, though. There, I was "No Party Affiliation" from the time I first registered until 2003, when I wanted a voice in the primary to combat GWB. As I recall, for many years I couldn't vote in primaries, then I could, and then I couldn't. Has that flipped back again? I've been gone for a decade.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I was a registered Democrat from 1973 to 2004 then changed to Declined To State (now No Party Affiliation) and have always been able to vote in the CA Democratic primaries.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I know that I was voting in Dem primaries, and then I couldn't.
I registered in '03 so that I could vote in the primary; by the next time around I was no longer in the state.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The people you mentioned will NOT vote for a pro-corporate politician with STRONG ties to Wall Street and that's why I've predicted from the very beginning that if Hillary gets the nomination, she will lose the general. Not only because all those people you mentioned will not vote for her but because her negatives are sky high and the Republican party will mobilize like you've never seen them mobilize before to rally against her. She WILL lose the General.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)His message resonates well with some Teapublicans apparently.
swilton
(5,069 posts)Sanders articulates, he needs more than Democrats. If he wins the general elections, enacting major reforms will require legislative allies.
He probably will never attract the establishment Democrats and some of the Republican cross-overs (the story about David Brock comes to mind) who stand to lose by his political revolution.
Hopefully, a major shake-up of the political landscape is in the offing that will result in a political movement to provide social justice, peace and protection of the environment.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)party you are going to vote in. We have to win this primary before we do anything else.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)One of my long time friends on Facebook leans Libertarian and is registering as a D to vote for Sanders because he very much supports the same issues (and he thinks all the Republican candidates are clowns).
He had posted a Sanders quote and someone responded to him. I responded to that person and said I was encouraged that people like my friend supported Sanders, now all we need to do is get him registered as a D. Two second later the friend sent me a message saying "you beat me to the punch, how do I sign up?"