Bernie Sanders
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Vermont, his son and the hungry early years that made him the surging socialist he is today.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927.html#.VZ_Fcl9Viko
Sanders has criticized the press his entire political career.
The question of who decides whats important and whats not important is really the most important issue, he said at a forum on the media in Burlington in 1988, and the media does not have a habit of focusing on whats important.
Something like that.
Briggs called me a little more than an hour after I sent my questions. He said he had talked with Sanders and had answers. He ticked them off one by one.
He told me where Sanders met and married his first wife and how the marriage ended. She got a Mexican divorce, is what I was told, Briggs said. He explained the origin of the money Sanders used to buy the Middlesex land and the carpentry he did on the sugar shack. He said Sanders received unemployment, for a few months, in 1971, though Sanders cant remember what the job was that qualified him for the benefits. He told me where Sanders had met Mott and where they lived together. He confirmed she was the mother of Sanders son, in spite of previous news accounts. Whatever has been reported, he said, what you have is accurate.
The last question I had sent him was whether there was anything else he thought I should know.
Yes, Briggs said.
The middle class is collapsing. Income and wealth inequality is greater now than it has been at any point since before the Great Depression. The American people are working longer hours for lower wages, and theyre angry. Those kinds of things, you should know.
A long read but a fascinating glimpse into the man.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)I love that article. And he has a poli sci degree!
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gregcrawford
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gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... of "Father Knows Best," before he became smitten by a bit player named Nancy something or other. Now you KNOW I'm old if I remember watching that show! At least, I think I remember...
Nancy was a seething cauldron of political ambitions, and Ronnie was coming off a potboiler called, "Bedtime for Bonzo," in which he was upstaged by a chimpanzee. He was settling into the end-of-career role of host for "Death Valley Days," sponsored by a laundry detergent called 20-Mule Team Borax, when Nancy convinced him to run for governor of California.
He lost the first time out. But, sadly, the rest is history. TMI?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)divorced him because he was boring. She won oscars, that woman.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)makes him much more appealing to me. He is one of us. Go Bernie.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)and while I sill choose to support Bernie because he's the best, I can't agree with you saying that this is "a fascinating glimpse into the man".
I hardly learned anything I didn't already know. :/
and I honestly began to wonder why he and those around him are so protective of Bernie. maybe I'm conditioned by the media to be nosey? I don't know.
I still trust Bernie, but if close people to him answer questions about him with commentary like "it's none of your fucking business"does that spur a little suspicion in anyone else?
he's still the better choice, don't get me wrong because he's right, none of that truly matters. the issues matter, the facts matter. how his family worked out or how his marriages went don't matter.
I do still want to know how he feels about pets though. I wonder if I'll ever find out.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)lives was "none of my fucking business" and I have applied that to every candidate since then - that his ex and his baby mother and his son do not want to be dragged through the mud by a bunch of hate mongers does not seem suspicious to me.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I guess I'm just so used to that info that I've come to expect it.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)electing a candidate. It is mostly because they have nothing else.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)... when it's in response to questions about his personal life many decades ago,
and have absolutely no bearing or relevance to his qualifications for holding public
office, in this case, POTUS.
It says more about how shallow & lame the US media has become than it does
about Bernie, when "sticking to the issues" is portrayed as somehow lacking
or inadequate.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And without fail, the Hillary supporters on this board have posted it as yet further proof that his son born out of wedlock means he is a bad bad man.
Really? You wanna go down that road? For real? Proceed.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I'm a Bernie supporter. I've made that very clear.
but if you want to act like a "come at me bro" frat boy kind of jerk about it be my guest and continue. geez.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)If you want to call me a frat boy jerk, go ahead, I've been called far worse. But I'm gonna say it again, the friend's remark was absolutely correct: it's nobody's fucking business. Kids are absolutely off limits. And if that makes you "suspicious", I really don't care.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Continue posturing even though others have helped me find comfort with the fact that it's none of our fucking business.
Please continue being angry even though I'm on your side.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Concern trolling is a thing. If you're not doing it, then move on.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I thought that might be it.
No, I'm not concern trolling. Yes I know what that is.
Since the truth is out as to why you were being defensive, I apologize for being abrasive back to you. I just took offense to your aggression.
But no, I'm not concern trolling. Honestly, I've been a bit too exposed to a good amount of negativity regarding Bernie. It tends to wear on me and I begin to doubt Bernie myself. I have a lot of hope for Bernie. But I don't have hope for people who just give up and play by the system's rules. I believe thats the reason why most people will vote Hillary instead of the obvious better choice of Bernie. Because they'd rather beat the GOP than actually try and make a change in our nation.
It's that negativity that leads me to truly be concerned. Not to concern troll. That's what sucks about being apart of groups on the internet. As soon as you have true concern, people think you're trolling. I only seek to be enlightened and encouraged.
You will never see me trolling, I assure you. Again, my apologies for being abrasive.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I have seen this article posted at least three times today with a special spin depending on who posts it. And my response for all candidates is their kids are not up for discussion. That's all.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)But we're working on it.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)T_T
But working on it is nice!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)turning this country into a democracy. He is truly a man of the people.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Heh - as if I needed any more conviction as to my support of Sanders. I've known guys like Bernie thru my years. The difference is, I never knew any who so unselfishly gave themselves up so completely to public service
Cleita
(75,480 posts)You can't get any more socialist than that.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)It's how I got where I am, for sure.
And makes me wonder why Republicans and neoliberal Democrats want to drive people into such poverty. It's a strategy guaranteed to backfire.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)they did not present it like it was written. All about Bernie never working and his illegitimate son. I listened for a bit and then turned him off. He will probably do the same thing on his "UP" program on Saturday. But I honestly think this is a dead issue.
They have nothing but that fact that Bernie had a son 40 years ago. And he was so busy working as an activist that he did not have a lot of money. That just tells me how much he really cares about the issues.
Oh, well - to hell with MSNBC.
Autumn
(45,096 posts)background story and what made Bernie what he is today. I never watch MSNBC, I can't bring myself to watch that crap 5 minutes in I'm so mad I'm cussing up a storm.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)But on the show they did not talk about the good things only the things I mentioned and they acted as if it was really bad. And how personal life is fair game. I was very angry at the use of the author of the article. Neither Hillary or Bernie are doing this so it was just that show.
udbcrzy2
(891 posts)Maybe that is the problem the 'news' account of it. Just remember not long ago when CNN was on live TV talking about an ISIS flag that wasn't really an ISIS flag? Well there ya go...
jwirr
(39,215 posts)said like you cite it and they did their best to make it sound like some kind of cover up. MSM does not know how to cover the real deal.
ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)donating to any candidate at any time.
He's the real deal. The type who usually doesn't make it this far in politics because he won't play ball with the entrenched interests.
Go Bernie.