Bernie Sanders
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Bernie Sanders greets supporters at a campaign event in Indianola, Iowa, on Sunday. Jim Young/Reuters
There really are Republicans (and former Republicans) who want Bernie Sanders for President. I wrote about this phenomenon about a month ago, and at the time I only knew of two such persons. But Everett Clifford, who was part of the first article, assured me that there were others besides him, and hes right. There are several Facebook pages called Republicans for Bernie, and I found what I hope is a representative sampling.
If Republicans want Bernie, this confronts the sure-to-come GOP claim that Bernie Sanders is unfit to be President because he is a democratic socialist.
Why is this important? If Republicans want Bernie, this confronts the sure-to-come GOP claim that Bernie Sanders is unfit to be President because he is a democratic socialist. Thus far, the attacks on Bernies character and platform have been either lame or of little persuasive value to Republican voters. For example, a Superpac supporting Martin OMalley, former Democratic governor of Maryland, asserted that Bernie was soft on gun control. This claim was made despite the fact that the NRA rates him anywhere from a D- to an F. Moreover, the gun nuts are still after him.
But Republicans, who are doubtless less proactive on gun control than Democrats, wouldnt fault Bernie for being balanced on gun control. Neither will many Democrats. After all, he comes from a rural state where there are a lot of guns (but very low murder rates with firearms), so his attitude is understandable. He has said that guns in Vermont are not the same thing as guns in Chicago or Los Angeles. In our state, guns are used for hunting. In Chicago they are used for kids killing other kids or gang members shooting at police officers, shooting down innocent people. We need a sensible debate about gun control, which overcomes the cultural divide that exists in this country, and I think I can play an important role in this.
So who are these Republicans who want a very left independent for President? Take Darren Remington, age 49, from Memphis, Tennessee. He is a college graduate and ex-military, registered Republican in 1994 when he left the Air Force, and describes himself this way:
I am an Eisenhower Conservative. My personal outlook is most closely aligned with that of three presidents (two Republican, one Democrat): Teddy Roosevelt (Square Deal), Truman (the buck stops here), and Eisenhower (five balanced budgets out of eight, understood that we must have adequate infrastructure to support a thriving economy).
And why is Remington for Bernie Sanders?
Hes an independent who has spoken up for veterans issues, rebuilding a strong middle class, and re-introducing the common sense that Thomas Paine wrote about into our modern government. Bernie Sanders seems to me to be to the 21st Century what Teddy Roosevelt was to the 20th Century.
And does the word socialist bother him?
More here: https://www.laprogressive.com/republicans-for-sanders/
Cleita
(75,480 posts)They don't want to cross over and be Democrats, but they are disgusted with how the Republicans are behaving today and they like Bernie and his message.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)The United States is afflicted with hyper-partisanship. Most Americans are politically driven by nothing more than hatred toward the Other Side, and give little thought to policy.
Many astute observers have noted the the real divide in America is not "Democrat" vs. "Republican," or even "Liberal" vs. "Conservative," but instead is "Have" vs. "Have Not." Those who have everything have done a masterful job of keeping us fighting against one another so that we don't notice what they're doing.
It's good for ordinary working Americans to see each other without the partisan lenses. There is plenty of time for us to argue over our differences, but if we want to get our democracy functioning again we'll need to work together. It looks like Bernie has appeal that cuts across partisan boundaries, which Clinton does not have.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)I have several Republican friends supporting Bernie. The way I've seen it, it starts with them seeing him as a genuine person and not a typical politician. That gets them to look at his views and one of two things happens. Either they find that they actually agree with him a lot when looking at the actual policies and not media labels, or they still disagree on the left stuff but still want to vote for him anyway because he is in fact genuine and everyone (the common people at least) across the political spectrum is tired of political speak and agrees with his desire to eliminate corruption.
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Most Republicans don't agree with Bernie. No surprise there. But here's the (pleasant) surprise. Most Republicans I've talked to respect Bernie. They see him as an honest and decent person, and not the typical politician who bends the message to fit the moment.
And Bernie's courageous stand against the Iraq invasion resonates with everyone, left and right. As most will now admit, he was correct all along.
I hate to say it, but I doubt if Bernie will get the nomination. But he's still doing a great service to the country! He's showing everyone that honesty and principles still do mean something.
P.S. to a2liberal. I haven't been posting much lately. Thanks for helping me get out of my shell. But I guess Bernie deserves some of the credit too!
eridani
(51,907 posts)Except maybe the anti-bankster part. Probably thinking "At least he isn't bullshitting anyone."
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)some of them do. Maybe not genuine Republicans in the first place, but they were pushed there somehow...
But yes, others just like him for being honest
eridani
(51,907 posts)If Dems won't advocate policies that help working people, the Repubs promise them that they can keep their guns at least.
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totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)Bernie is going to get a lot of Republican support.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)that Bernie's gun stance IS Reflective of the People he Works for in Vermont as a US Senator. That is what they sent him there For. To Represent what the Majority in VT want.
He fulfilled his promises to the constituency in VT.
Were we All that fortunate to get such a good return from those we elect and send to DC to represent Us in every state? Boy, what a different place America would be, in my view.
If he can get GOP votes in VT of course he's going to appeal to the silent and reasonable Republicans out there across the country who are just as appalled as the rest of us over the shenanigans Both sides are pulling. It isn't the run of the mill Dem or GOP..it's those who are the Senior, Longest Serving Corporate Shills/Celebrity Pols in Both Party's calling the shots and doing the most damage. The majority of the "peons" serving in DC are just being led around by their noses, doing what they're told....imo.
He is bringing us Together at the political level Instead of nurturing and keeping up the great divide, imo.
fbc
(1,668 posts)How can you possibly convince a republican who is mad at Wall Street and the big banks that voting for Hillary Clinton is any more productive than voting for Jeb Bush?
I have republican friends that are very enamored of Elizabeth Warren, to the point where they expressed interest in voting for a Democrat for the first time in years if she ran. Bernie's message will appeal to them.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)says that he will vote for Sanders if we can get him past Clinton.