the 'The bernistas are all right wing plants trying to hurt our chances' or the 'they're all racists and misogynists'?
Personally my favorite so far is 'None of you are real democrats because you don't toe the party line'.
I hear that they come into our group, they see venom. I see snark and some sincere doubts about Hillary, serious support of Bernie. I see that Bernie supporters are consistently racist but......I'm not seeing it no matter how hard I look.
When you challenge the powerful and weighty, you get leaned on.
I'm trying to take it as a point of pride they're leaning so HEAVY, but it's hard.
We can do it together though, all of us.

find two brain cells to rub together in their mother's handbag.

because that means I am not a R. Real Democrats have always thought for themselves. Especially on racial and women's issues.

There is instead a consensus that allows a wide range of opinions.

Unfortunately, some very authoritarian types have infiltrated the party and tried to convince everybody else that the "party line" is whatever their Chosen One says it is. And the fact that a lot of Dems aren't buying it has got them in a major snit.

I don't think I have ever seen the completed results and what happens to it when it gets to the national convention.

Years ago when we watched the convention on television we actually got to watch them work on it there. Too bad we do not have that openness now. I am old enough that I remember Eleanor Roosevelt being at one of those conventions.

We pull together when it is down to the wire.

I'd rather fight against the status quo with other people that are fighting against the status quo than to sit by complacent to the tune of "We have been told we have enough rights. We have been handed enough dignity. We have been allotted enough economic power."

in the comfort of Home Sweet Home

Bernie's massive crowds should give you a positive moment of reflection.

that I had to start putting people on ignore. I was seriously this close to leaving DU.

For me it was a few weeks ago. Upon investigating, I found you CANNOT delete your account here. Apparently disk space is not a problem for DU. Your digital footprint is permanent here. Why, I do not know.

So I took the next step. I laid low for a few weeks, and came back. My views have not changed in the least bit. I've learned to be more tolerant, and God forbid, I will never start a post again. I'm Ok with that and now, as I only post on current threads. I ignore the stupidity and ignorance.

Good luck

If someone:

is consistently an asshole;
or consistently mocks, ridicules, and patronizes Bernie Sanders (or his supporters);
or unfairly calls or insinuates that Bernie Sanders is a racist

AND

never posts anything of value outside of mocking Bernie Sanders (or his supporters)

Then: They are now on ignore.

I have never used ignore to this extent before on DU, and I have to say it is simply wonderful knowing that I am never again going to get in to back and forths with certain posters.

I also trashed GDP.

DU has been a much better experience for me the past few days.

In short, I am at the point where if I come across a post from a poster that pisses me off (and it's a post from a poster that has consistently pissed me off over the years), they are going straight to the ignore pile. I ain't got time for that shit anymore. We do have our rude assholes that's for sure. And, I DO consider someone a rude asshole when they are financially privileged, but they they spend most of their time telling people that we can't fight for (and have) truly progressive candidates and policies implemented (i.e. the status quo neo-liberal agenda (that hugely benefits the financially privileged) is the best we can hope for). In other words, MUCH more for me and LESS for you. Yes, that's a rude asshole. In fact, that used to be a Republican in my mind.

going to be here all alone on their own site before election day

No doubt!

I'm repeating myself here, but in nearly eight years at DU I seldom put anyone on ignore. Now I have thirteen on ignore, and I trashed GD-P. Don't let them run you off. Take a breather and hang out here among like minded folks. Know which posters are toxic and skip their posts; I do it all the time.

The stakes are too high in this election for us to be silenced or run off. We have the best candidate and he's worth fighting for. Hang in there.

simply for stating what GD and GDP have become. A juror pretty much wished for my departure; wish granted.

On vacation until it's really election season, will see if anything has improved by September 2016. Have left for years before and was never sorry; but drawn back in by the endless soap opera with appealing heroes and heroines and dastardly villains. This week the villainy has gotten to be just too much.

Hoping meanwhile to find a place where Sanders supporters are not targets of constant harassment.

pretty safe. I can't say completely safe because a few times one or the other of HRH HRC's supporters post here and when called on it say "oh is this a group? I didn't know" but then they won't leave without a fight or finally being banned.

not logging in exposes one to horrendous abusiveness-- but the ignore list plus trashing GD and GDP really does make DU bearable for us oldtimers who remember when we were almost all progressives here

when thought of myself as a refugee from Huff Post. Lots of anti-Obama crap there then and I wondered which side they were on.

Anyway, thinking of taking a break from DU from time to time because I log on to it first thing in the a.m. , then first thing when I get home from work. Then keep looking back at it. I don't post opinions much so there isn't much reason for me to be attacked but I do need to step back from it sometimes, if only for my own mental health. LOL

When GD-P gets ugly, stick to the Sanders group

It's a bad storm out there, better come home .

I have no problem putting someone on ignore.

for all to see, except me. and that's a creepy feeling, knowing that.

I just got finished with an extended exchange that has caused me to reconsider
and either use Bernie Groups or put Assholes on ignore now. I'm done with
wasting my time & energy on this crap.

I felt that way too but decided what I don't see may be worth it.

We and Bernie need it!

I just wish that the site would block everything and anything that names on my blocked list do...I still see users that post OP's, show up in Trending...I don't even want to see the name.

Best just to stay in the Happy Group...uh, Bernie Group that is!

If someone's enough of an asshole for me to put them on ignore, the only people at DU who don't know that person's an asshole are his/her co-assholes.

I got a brutal ass kicking for asking a question once about HRC with no agenda attached. I actually like to watch how some behave. Gives me a heads up.

Put GDP and several other "protected groups" on ignore, not my DU experience is much nicer. Sometimes I will log out and see if I am missing something, and each time I am glad that I am not seeing that crap.

There's always an extra measure of desperation after Bernie makes a good showing, doubly so if there's a not-good news story about Hillary going around.

Apparently, the drill is that Bernie Sanders can't win, doesn't give a crap about the people he's always fought for, and his supporters suck scissors, especially those on DU, while Hillary's are golden.

I've never experienced a primary where as much trash or more is talked about the candidate's supporters as about the candidate. I've also never before heard voters say, "I was going to vote for so and so for the most powerful person on the planet, but his or her supporters , who will have no power, other than casting a vote, have caused me to change my mind about who I think should be the most powerful person on the planet.



Anyway, I've been sticking fairly closely to Populist and Sanders. I trashed GD: P (You have to put a space in between the GD: and the P or it shows up, somewhat ironically as GD ). I still wander in, though, because of DU jury duty and when I am not careful what I click on when I am in Latest Threads. More and more, I just look away. I've also this week increased my ignore list by many, many multiples.

It's amazing how much better I feel about posting now!

Meanwhile, your OP will probably be locked soon as meta. If it is, please don't take it personally. You have many friends in this forum. Locking an OP for meta is just one of the ways the hosts of this group strive to keep the OP's in this group about Bernie and not about DU.

Again, nice to see you.

The DU hate on Dean supporters was epic.

Kerry was a member of the Senate New Democrat Caucus when he ran. The DLC had originally--and I would posit, nominally--endorsed founding member Joe Lieberman. However, everyone knew Lieberman was not going to get far, despite just about living in New Hampshire for about a year before the primary. And, when Lieberman dropped out, as everyone knew he would have to, the DLC endorsed Kerry.

And, while the DLC dissolved its corporate existence, Sanders is obviously NOT the candidate of the DLC/DNC.

supporters. I can't wrap my mind around that thought.

--and I do mean, no DUer.

I saw a pro-Hillary thread where a reply was hidden apparently for disagreeing with the OP, called "off-topic".
It was the thread that Skinner had a couple replies in.

I'm not complaining about DU, I'm just observing that it seems to have changed in tone and in the way it comports itself as a community.

IOW, be for Hillary or be very very careful.

I don't think that has changed. On the other hand, I don't think Skinner has made a secret of where he stands. He adopted the Hillary logo as soon as it went public, he has stated that he supports Hillary, he started another board for just Hillary supporters, etc.

in DemocraticUnderground - that shipped sailed about 2002, and since then it's become increasingly centrist and less and less progressive. Hell, compared to politics 40 or 50 years ago, DU is almost center-right.

That's my assumption anyway. It allows people to say "you personally ruined it for me" as a last-resort attempt to make one feel bad.

It's behavior I haven't seen since puberty

She might know.

some are just slow learners I guess.

"I was going to vote for ____, but the supporters of ____ made me decide I didn't want to vote for ____.

Someone really needs to explain that one to me - use your big words or your small ones, just explain it to me.

You are one of my favorite DUers!

Is it a coincidence that many of my favorite DUers are here in the Bernie Sanders group?

Evil. Pure evil. Of course. duh.

in threads.
But if it gives you any consolation...
On Ed Schultzes podcast tonight, he opened with the amount of hate that he's been receiving on Facebook and other social media for questioning Hillary what so ever or being otherwise only biased for asking questions.
I think that's good company to be in.

it was both heartening and a let down that we've gotten to this.

of a "Charm Offensive" then there is no charm, just offensive!

Here is a great video to show you how awesome we really are.

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most of us will show up and dutifully vote for the lesser of two evils as we have for many years. But how great would it be if we could actually nominate someone who gives a crap about ordinary folks in this country?

We can do this!

super delegates get about 20% of the votes.

The system was set up to avoid having the nominee be someone other than the DNC's choice. Although that is actually quite how they labeled it.

So, when the DNC conducts surveys, make sure you let the DNC know how you feel about that. Will it do any good if we tell them? Dunno. Sure can't hurt, though.

To H and her supporters. Gawd, I remember the howling at the feminist sites about the caucusers. There were womyn who vowed to vote for every anti abortion measure after her loss, and to run all the energy so the young people would have nothing in the future. There was such an anger.


What is funny, is that some of those types of H supporters now embrace the Obama cabinet years of H. So funny.

I've been excoriated for posting that here, but it seems clear to me and I've stopped caring about who here doesn't like what I post. I used to care some. That's no longer the case.

The 76 year old said flatly. "Hillary isn't left enough." And that is it.

not set it out this time. Too much to lose.

It's wonderful, positive and fun in here.

GD and GDP...not so much.

Go Team Bernie!

The vapors from these chemicals make a lot of people ill, including me.

I use Dr. Bronner's after reading GDP. It's organic, but as a body wash it's strong enough to remove even the toughest GDP grease and stains. It's pretty expensive though.
https://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/category/LIQUIDSOAP.html

but I absolutely stole your sig which was more compact than mine.

I expect it to get worse as cognitive dissonance sets in, and it becomes harder to defend the indefensible.

time it tells a lie. Pretty soon, it's nothing more than a tiny little dot saying, "Look at me! Look at meeeeeee!"

It does get a bit overwhelming at times. But Bernie keeps on drawing the crowds, and that's what matters.

Great to see you here

when i saw this. i think i need a break from gd.p. i am trying to take it as a good sign for bernie..the inevitability is crumbling a little more every day, and the establishment sees the writing on the wall. the worse her numbers get, the tougher things on du are going to get

except in here

Like "batten down the hatches, we have a big store coming!" rough.

to poke over to the hillary group just to read, not to post. it was interesting. in the Bernie group, most of the threads are positive like look with this magazine article said about bernie or hey poll numbers are improving. But on the Hillary group, so many of the threads are basically complaints and whining about how someone so or this magazine or this person is speaking out against Hillary or people are trashing her or someone's doing a piece to discredit her. it's pretty amazing. A lot of complaining almost as if people aren't supposed to speak critically of someone running for president like it's owed to her and anyone who dares to point out any flaws she may have is somehow evil. I guess it's all part of the whole inevitability thing or the she deserves it or it's her turn I don't know. But I like it way better here.

From the same posters.

How many threads with virtually the same question or declaration?! And every day like clockwork. I just feel like saying--why isn't this thread in the h group? You are looking for your supporters not actually debating anything. I can't even muster wanting any of the posters I now know by name to vote for Bernie. I don't care. They can do what they want. Fall into the abyss of H love and clover. Go!

le sigh

I came into this election thinking I wouldn't be marking the top spot on the ballot. Then Bernie announced and I was over the moon.

I came here to feel connected to other Bernie supporters.


There was a little spell that I actually felt okay with voting for Hillary if she got the nod and now I am doing what I can to get the Latino vote in Seattle area. We really need to do outreach in the minority population and I feel when the Latinos hear Bernie, see Bernie and look at his record, they will embrace him.

I know we have more than a year away, but I also know that people drop out. We have to get this train going.

Or we will be rail roaded again.

And I completely understand it when they say they are turned off by the other candidate supporters. So am I! Ihave come back around to my deep distrust and dislike for H.



Thank you for listening.

that way the Hillary supporters will be reduced to arguing with themselves and calling each other names.

It's hard but that is the only way for them to sink.

If they want to use issues on why they like something Hillary stands for and Bernie isn't the same, great.

But these other ones--the ones that don't promote new observations or the ones that have been repeated again and again, don't rise to the bait.

Lets support our OPs that focus on issues...and new one by Cui Bono, because everyone NEEDS humor!


I am as guilty of the next poster to rising to the bait, but no one said it would be easy!

Like, lets ignore the new Hillary ad. I cried at the Boy from Hope all those years ago, I cannot be trusted...my heart is too sensitive.