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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:26 AM Jul 2015

With Bernie’s People in Vermont

Note the underscore--Sanders is motivating the 63%

http://www.thenation.com/article/with-bernies-people-in-vermont/

A large man in overalls, who looked pretty familiar with pitchforks, said, “At least Bernie knows how many teats are on a cow’s udder.”

A social worker from Greenfield, Massachusetts, stood up and said she’d recently moved east from Chicago, and the differences in mental health provision among the states made her realize how much we needed a genuine national healthcare system. Another recent transplant from the Midwest talked about Scott Walker, and how proud she was to now have Bernie for a senator. Pedro, who was born in Venezuela, told them that if they lasted through two winters here, they could consider themselves Vermonters.

“If we can elect a black guy from Hawaii, then we can elect a Jewish guy from Brooklyn and Vermont,” said Jim DeBor, from Wilmington, Vermont. “I believe we can win. But at the very least he can make Hillary go a little bit left.”

It was that note of modest realism that kept coming up, from the young woman who said, “I’ll vote for Hillary in November if I have to, but I’d much rather vote for Bernie,” to the retired IT consultant who told me he’d never thought there was any point in voting until he heard Ross Perot warning about the “sucking sound” of American jobs leaving the country with the North American Free Trade Agreement. “I saw it happen in my own field,” he said. “Perot didn’t get anywhere, and the jobs disappeared just like he said. But he stood up to the system and told the truth, and I see Bernie the same way. Of course Perot was a billionaire, and Bernie isn’t. So he needs people to make up for the lack of money.”

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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. Those who can't be polled. I have a feeling he's going to get a lot
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 03:42 AM
Jul 2015

of non voters who gave up on the whole system, excited enough to vote for him.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. I know all the political regulars, the Democrats who work on campaigns and attend meetings
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:46 AM
Jul 2015

in my area. I did not see a one of them at the Bernie organizer.

It's all people who are pretty new to politics or maybe were involved way back when and are getting involved now again.

LOTS AND LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.

We had about 50 people. Everyone was very excited. Lots of clapping.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Excellent. I know that Bernie gave this a lot of thought before deciding to run.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jul 2015

He said he would be depending on the Independent vote, now the largest registered voting bloc in the country, and that he hoped to get the huge non voting demographic excited enough to vote for him.

If he does, he won't need much of the base of the Dem party, though he is also making huge inroads there also.

And he is even getting Moderate Repubs and left leaning Libertarians excited enough to support him.

I don't think the status quo have a clue how ANGRY the people are. But he does.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
3. Me too.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:06 AM
Jul 2015

If we see it the establishment does too. Hence the reason for the increase in dirty tricks and unfair media. Maybe we can make it work for us.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. I think we absolutely can make it work for us. When they start with the negative
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jul 2015

campaigning, which has already happened, Social Media is a powerful tool to take fast action to take it on, unlike eg, when Dean was attacked on the MSM.

I saw it on Social Media after McCaskill's unfortunate negative campaign attempt. She was eviscerated all over Social Media, exposed as a 'negative campaigner for Hillary' which only emphasized Bernie's 'above the fray' campaign style.

If anything, her attacks on Bernie had the opposite effect, it PROVED that this is what they do, that they don't talk about issues, they just attack. And people are sick and tired of it.

So let them keep doing it. We have a way now to USE it to Bernie's advantage and cause it to backfire on their candidates.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. NE MN here - union country. During the sign up period for the July 29 meetings I watched to see
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jul 2015

how many were signing up. Duluth had a lot of meetings and most were full. And then I looked at the meetings being held in Two Harbors, Vermillion, etc. I got a bit scared because there were only a couple with 3-8 people signed up to go. This is in heavy Democratic areas. My own community did not even have a meeting.

So I am scared - what is going on?

Then I started thinking - my community did not have an office for Al Franken but we supported him. Those of us who wanted to volunteer went to Duluth. So the fact that some of the smaller communities were not represented on July 29 is not so surprising. I think it is the wrong approach but that is the way it is.

But what happened to the Union workers? Well maybe some of the volunteers in Duluth were Union members working on their own. Talked with my daughter, the Union member, and she reminded me that very few members do anything until their Union decides who to support. I have to tell you that does not make me feel any better.

That works when all candidates in a primary are well known but how does that work when one candidate is well known and all the rest are relatively unknown? It seems to me that means that even if my daughter is a Bernie supporter she cannot exercise her right to be involved in his campaign from the beginning. Which once again favors the leader.

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