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global1

(25,272 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:47 AM Aug 2015

I Find It Interesting That The Two Candidates That Are Being Targeted - Sanders By BLM & Trump By...

the Repug powers that be and Fox - are the two candidates that pose the biggest threat to the status quo.

Both Sanders on the Dem side and Trump on the Repug side are causing problems for the DNC and RNC respectively.

They were not in the plan and therefore they need to go and it appears that there is a concerted effort to discredit and knock both of these guys out of the picture.

And I'm not even wearing my tinfoil hat tonight.

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I Find It Interesting That The Two Candidates That Are Being Targeted - Sanders By BLM & Trump By... (Original Post) global1 Aug 2015 OP
Status Quo is trying very hard to look like the only sane choice Hydra Aug 2015 #1
Yeah, I have noticed the same thing... GReedDiamond Aug 2015 #2
It would be about as much of a rejection of insider politics as you could get. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #4
Bernie is beating Trump in polls currently, and Trump never attended sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #5
One good turn... sgtbenobo Aug 2015 #10
Or Sanders / Trump ticket ... lol Baadger Aug 2015 #11
it'll take place here MisterP Aug 2015 #15
This promises to be a very interesting election. Rod Beauvex Aug 2015 #3
Anyone not owned by the corporate powers that be will be marginalized and Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 #6
Airline flights, car rentals, taxis, motel rooms, restaurants ... etc Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #7
big convo on twitter about that tonight.... Triana Aug 2015 #8
We still got a long way to go world wide wally Aug 2015 #9
Let us hope it isnt like 68 padfun Aug 2015 #12
Spot on - if Bernie makes it past the first TBF Aug 2015 #14
The 1% has a lot to lose - TBF Aug 2015 #13
this has been building for a while restorefreedom Aug 2015 #16

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
1. Status Quo is trying very hard to look like the only sane choice
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:50 AM
Aug 2015

And failing miserably. Nobody wants another 8 years of Bush/Clinton dynasty.

GReedDiamond

(5,316 posts)
2. Yeah, I have noticed the same thing...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:51 AM
Aug 2015

...and my mind positively boggles at the thought of a Sanders vs Trump general election.

How weird would that be?!

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
4. It would be about as much of a rejection of insider politics as you could get.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:07 AM
Aug 2015

A paradigm shift in Washington.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. Bernie is beating Trump in polls currently, and Trump never attended
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:09 AM
Aug 2015

any Bernie family weddings OR contributed to Bernie for his Senate Campaigns.

Oh how I wish it would be Bernie V Trump in the GE.

 

sgtbenobo

(327 posts)
10. One good turn...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:55 AM
Aug 2015

.... deserves another.

The War Prayer
by Mark Twain

It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fulttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory with stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener.

It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety’s sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way.

Sunday morning came — next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams — visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender!

Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation:

God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest,
Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!

Then came the “long” prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory —

An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher’s side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, “Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord and God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!”

The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside — which the startled minister did — and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said:

“I come from the Throne — bearing a message from Almighty God!” The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. “He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import — that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of — except he pause and think. “God’s servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two — one uttered, and the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this — keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon your neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain on your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse on some neighbor’s crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

“You have heard your servant’s prayer — the uttered part of it. I am commissioned by God to put into words the other part of it — that part which the pastor — and also you in your hearts — fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard the words ‘Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!’ That is sufficient. The whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory — must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

“Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle — be Thou near them! With them — in spirit — we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it —

For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!

We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

(After a pause.) “Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits.”



It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. Anyone not owned by the corporate powers that be will be marginalized and
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:14 AM
Aug 2015

if at all possible, kept out of the running.

Realistically, our right to vote is nothing more than the right to choose from among those candidates who have been hand picked in advance by our corporate overlords.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. Airline flights, car rentals, taxis, motel rooms, restaurants ... etc
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:20 AM
Aug 2015

cost money, plus having to pay for your rental at your own turf when you're on the road to get to these events..

An't cheap.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
8. big convo on twitter about that tonight....
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:24 AM
Aug 2015

....the economic powers that be want Sanders and Trump destroyed. A few people suspect that BLM - at least in part - is orchestrated for that purpose (against Sanders).

The overarching theme in 2016 is that people of both parties are sick and tired of the status quo. But those benefiting from the status quo and current economic "conditions" don't want their yachts rocked -- so they're hellbent on destruction of the two candidates threatening the status quo the most - Sanders and Trump - using whatever 'tools' available at their disposal.

It's no coincidence.

padfun

(1,788 posts)
12. Let us hope it isnt like 68
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:01 AM
Aug 2015

when social change was huge. There was RFK and then the Chicago Convention, They didn't want RFK either.

Nixon was elected.

TBF

(32,102 posts)
14. Spot on - if Bernie makes it past the first
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:59 AM
Aug 2015

few primaries he is going to need damned good security.

TBF

(32,102 posts)
13. The 1% has a lot to lose -
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:59 AM
Aug 2015

and they are determined to have a Clinton/Bush election in which Bush wins. I think that's crystal clear. I am down here in enemy territory (Texas) and I can tell you that amongst the powers that be down here the religious folks like Scott Walker (who is VP material similar to Dan Quayle - he does what he's told) and Bush is the candidate for the old school republicans. They don't want Bernie throwing a wrench in this. Whether they or Hillary are stirring things up is debatable, but the status quo definitely does not want a socialist running their show.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. this has been building for a while
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 06:29 PM
Aug 2015

and no one is even trying to hide it anymore.

fox and the gop establishment is going after trump on the right, dws, the dnc, and outside agitators going after bernie on the left.

either way this goes, it is a people's revolution. and the oligarchs are shitting bricks about the prospect of either a trump or sanders administration.

i fear what other nasty tactics both sides are capable of if it is this early.

i expect the smears and disruption of both candidates to get much uglier, and i actually hope trump stays in. he represents what we do from the alternate universe. an ousting of career politicians and corporate rule.

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