data analysis. I think this guys is letting his bias show, just a smidge.

Bernie had a great west coast run and right after his last rally 538 came out with that wrong analysis, and the next day a real poll showed Bernie in fact had surged....... I thought that was odd... then someone pointed out 538 was also bought by Disney and ABC.....



Anyway its good this guy admitted he was wrong so all is good.

and under-emphasize good about Hillary. It's human nature I think. Nothing nefarious. It's just that it is difficult to ignore our bias. This is the case for everyone.

The Disney/ABC connection is definitely something to keep in the back of one's mind, however.

Imagine if a doctor said, "Gee, I guess I was rooting for my patient's recovery so much that got too optimistic when the deceased's color look better to me."

I don't think it's only the Disney/ABC connection alone. I think Democrats of a certain age know only Bubba, the Bushes and Obama. Clinton and Obama were not only Democrats, they were young and charismatic. Younger Democrats were very young when Bubba was in office and look back with rose-colored glasses. And they tend to be centrists because it's all they've lived, other than Republicans.

we were duped into voting for them each twice. In Clinton's case, I watched in dismay as Democrat after Democrat declared "I'm not a Liberal!" while he was in office. Sometimes I want to change my screen name to "Bamboozled by Bubba".

I was watching some show on C-Span years ago that was showcasing authors (who were peddling their books). Both Al Franken and Molly Ivins were there. The host referred to liberals, and Molly Ivins shouted back, "I'm not a liberal."

But, you are not alone. To this day, many bright, educated, well informed Democrats I know have never heard of the DLC.

"The more you know."

wondered "what's happening to the Democratic Party?" !! Now that I know I will never forget.

the wiki on the DLC and links to some posts here. (Her objection had been she didn't want another McGovern, so I sent her links to some posts relevant to that.)

She emailed me back to say that she had not made her way through everything, but she's been telling everyone she knows about the DLC. (That alone is worth a donation to wiki and I should make one.)

Later, I sent her and some other friends on Cape Cod a link to the Bernie events on Cape Cod (one of them was a bonfire on the beach, sigh). She emailed back saying she was definitely voting for Bernie in the primary and the general.

What the DLC did at home and abroad (with Hillary traveling to Europe with Al From) is one of four reasons that Hillary will never be my primary candidate.

Where? The email server is blowing up all over the place...there's a fictional film on Benghazi coming out soon (saw the trailer)...and Bill is putting his oar in.

the idea was to crush Sanders in an embarrassment and show Clinton could solve it diplomatically.

Howard Dean's participation was just a bit too coincidental and a bit too obvious in its pitch.

We'll see how the big papers play it out. The whole play hasn't worked out in the news cycle, yet.

...don't mention anything Bill strokes....

abolishing Glass-Stegall.

Yeah, that helps.

to a large corporation but I couldn't remember who.

My "in awe" of his analysis went down the tube after that.

Bernie's surge had ended. I smiled and moved on.

He's lied about votes once too often for me.

And yes, I did use the word "lie".

IOW, please elaborate a bit.

Like those who pushed the meme that prop 8 was the fault of Black folks, Nate just out and out lied about an anti-war vote that Kucinich made, calling it a vote against hate crime legislation.

If I recall correctly, the word "war" didn't even appear in the column.

just because it may not paint the picture that we want of our candidate we shouldnt just dismiss it. Yes they could be incorrect but dismissing it and just saying they have bias is something that repubs do and look where it got Romney and his fans

(note: No I am not comparing Bernie Sanders supporters and Romney supporters. I'm just trying to say that it's human nature for us to dismiss polls and such if it doesn't show our candidate in good light)

it wasn't a painting it was a poll they pushed and admitted now it was wrong.

but thanks anyway for the Romney smear.

but just in general I've seen on this site recently supporters from both camps (Hillary and Bernie) use numbers that they like to drum up support- my point was just that as a party we should not fall in the same trap as the repubs.

any other DUer. People post poll numbers here for many reasons, but drumming up support for Bernie or Hillary is not one of them.

my impression is that he is not your first primary choice.

I actually love Bernie.....but I don't dislike Hillary as well. At this point you could chalk me up as "undecided" but each day I get closer to just choosing Bernie as my candidate for the primaries (but then I always get drawn back by my "maybe I need to wait a little bit more before deciding" haha)

Or her history of voting for war?

Maybe it's her copying the ideas (free tuition, voter reform, etc.) of other candidates and acting she came up with them first. Is that it?

Media making a big deal of Clinton 'education ideas' without mentioning that those same ideas had been pushed by Bernie for months.

I don't have too much argument with 538 on that. Statistics reflect reality (when done well), they don't determine it. You can't keep increasing support exponentially. At some point you have to get out and start working hard for votes, and Bernie is about to do that, with the help of those 100,000 potential campaigners he rallied in meetings across the country the other night.