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KABOOM!!! Front page today's Boston Herald (Original Post) Playinghardball Aug 2015 OP
Media!! haikugal Aug 2015 #1
RW paper, once owned by Rupert Murdoch. merrily Aug 2015 #5
Forgive my enthusiasm...I got excited because of the blackout. Thanks for the info. nt haikugal Aug 2015 #7
No, no. Being enthusiastic about this is perfectly fine. It's great. merrily Aug 2015 #9
Ah, thanks for clarifying! It was good info! haikugal Aug 2015 #10
You have to wonder about the agenda, though nxylas Aug 2015 #16
i was just gonna say that restorefreedom Aug 2015 #26
That's no problem.... daleanime Aug 2015 #30
heh. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #31
HA! n/t SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #53
Bam! and daleanime Aerows Aug 2015 #54
Actually, if the Bernie groundswell proves too big to avoid... dougolat Aug 2015 #40
You're very welcome! merrily Aug 2015 #28
Is it true that driving in Boston Aerows Aug 2015 #55
Every city has issues, especially the older parts. merrily Aug 2015 #56
he still leads even in the margin of error. :D:D:D roguevalley Aug 2015 #15
All people powered. azmom Aug 2015 #2
..... merrily Aug 2015 #29
Beautiful. My favorite song and so apropos. Thank You. Tommymac Aug 2015 #42
You're welcome. merrily Aug 2015 #43
You're gonna hear a lot JackInGreen Aug 2015 #3
Yep. Just smile and nod and move on. merrily Aug 2015 #6
Wise! Bubzer Aug 2015 #18
Excellent News - As Things Should Be cantbeserious Aug 2015 #4
From 8% in March to 44% in August. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #8
They do try. Fearless Aug 2015 #17
Oh, but they are. merrily Aug 2015 #57
No spin on that... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #58
Oh, fine. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #59
It's elementary, my dear Le Taz... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #67
Damn, I thought it would be something about Trump. zeemike Aug 2015 #11
K & R Thespian2 Aug 2015 #12
Lets keep a little perspective... Bubzer Aug 2015 #19
Donating and volunteering are the first steps. merrily Aug 2015 #21
Absolutely! I've donated once already and I'm thinking of doing so again! Bubzer Aug 2015 #24
Yep. The Bernie Group is fun, too. I've never had the luxury of posting about my candidate where merrily Aug 2015 #27
Heh... yeah, no doubt. Bubzer Aug 2015 #32
Heh... markbark Aug 2015 #39
Hah! Thats great! Bubzer Aug 2015 #52
Absolutely. It's really up to us. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #49
Cor...rect!!! Thespian2 Aug 2015 #51
It is very early to put a lot of stock in polls Indepatriot Aug 2015 #13
It is. On the other hand, NH primary will be some time in January and the period between merrily Aug 2015 #22
NH Primary is 2/9/16 swilton Aug 2015 #47
Just met with an arborist (tree specialist) & told him about Bernie Divernan Aug 2015 #14
Good thought! merrily Aug 2015 #23
Look at the message in the composition of that front page. Bernie is NCjack Aug 2015 #20
Shows the power of the media and establishment Republicans. merrily Aug 2015 #25
This country will just not elect an avowed socialist and that is too bad. kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #33
I don't know if I believe that anymore. It was said that we would never elect a black man, either. Volaris Aug 2015 #34
I sure hope you are correct. I will vote for whomever the Dem candidate is. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #41
As will I. Volaris Aug 2015 #46
'Socialist' isn't the dirty word that it used to be, particularly among young people.... n8dogg83 Aug 2015 #63
Yep /nt/ PosterChild Aug 2015 #44
If that's how you feel, the Bernie Sanders Group might smokey nj Aug 2015 #45
OK, that's fine...what about an avowed democratic socialist? truebluegreen Aug 2015 #48
"avowed socialist" seems to be the common talking point of the Sanders Haters. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #50
"ARE YOU, or HAVE YOU EVER BEEN.....???" bullwinkle428 Aug 2015 #61
If a "socialist" is worse than a "democratic socialist", what's worse than a socialist? rhett o rick Aug 2015 #64
The word "Socialist" is tarnished Baadger Aug 2015 #62
We've elected "avowed capitalists" and that hasn't worked. KansDem Aug 2015 #66
Finally. He's getting media attention. marble falls Aug 2015 #35
NYTimes calls it "statistical tie" & not on front page. senz Aug 2015 #36
Actually Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2015 #37
K & R L0oniX Aug 2015 #38
K&R Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #60
Nice image of Sanders Babel_17 Aug 2015 #65

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. No, no. Being enthusiastic about this is perfectly fine. It's great.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:50 PM
Aug 2015

I just thought it was relevant info. (I live in Boston.(

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
16. You have to wonder about the agenda, though
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

I suspect the RW wants to boost Bernie because they think he's unelectable. In which case, they may be in for a nasty shock.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
26. i was just gonna say that
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:10 PM
Aug 2015

fox news has been very kind to bernie. and it ain't cuz they like him

they think he can be easily defeated in a ge

or, maybe used to think so.....

dougolat

(716 posts)
40. Actually, if the Bernie groundswell proves too big to avoid...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 06:09 PM
Aug 2015

...(in spite of some Rovian sabotage and Koch-fiend interference) the Profiteer Plutarchs may decide: "Fine, you idealists think you can fix things by doing what should have been done decades ago? Go ahead and try, WE"VE ALREADY LOOTED the place!!"

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
55. Is it true that driving in Boston
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:59 AM
Aug 2015

is the worst driving experience in the world? I've heard people say that. I hated driving in Houston and Atlanta, but I've heard that Boston is nothing to play with.

Sorry for that OT question, just curious.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. Every city has issues, especially the older parts.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 05:37 AM
Aug 2015

I don't think it's near as bad as L.A. or Manhattan.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
58. No spin on that...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:52 AM
Aug 2015

His message is broad.

The science of this is a bit like capillary action with water continuing to infuse the message. Of course this is the state next to Vermont.

Go Bernie… Your message is B R O A D !!!

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
67. It's elementary, my dear Le Taz...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:37 PM
Aug 2015

Imagine (if you will) the photo below with three cups. However, one cup of liquid is colored red and one blue, on either side of an empty cup. Insert a wade of paper towel and let "capillary action" pull red and blue liquid into the empty cup. This happens by capillary action.


But, by using my strange imagination of the Bernie Sanders capillary action, the cups of all red states and blue states would harmonize eventually evolve into a healing purple hue.

Imagine that! Healing HUMANS.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
19. Lets keep a little perspective...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:48 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie can open the door...but we still have to walk through.
Electing him would merely be the first step. The next would be to support him and pressure other politicians to support him as well!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. Donating and volunteering are the first steps.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:03 PM
Aug 2015

We should also be trying, where we each live, to get voting machines out of the process and to make sure people are registered to vote, can get an absentee ballot, if they need one, etc.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
24. Absolutely! I've donated once already and I'm thinking of doing so again!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

I'm kind of amazed at how many people in my area are so very pro-Bernie. I've even had a few people evangelize to me about him, thinking I wasn't already for Bernie. Quite amazing really!

Its so energizing to see fellow supporters out and about!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. Yep. The Bernie Group is fun, too. I've never had the luxury of posting about my candidate where
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

someone could not mock me or argue about it. IMO, it's great. I don't agree with people who say we all should be able to post anywhere on the board. I don't have a need for more places on this board to argue. Er, I mean, discuss.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
32. Heh... yeah, no doubt.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:35 PM
Aug 2015

Sometimes all you want is some civil discourse... sometimes all you get is a "discussion" with a rabid wombat.

So Fierce!!!

markbark

(1,562 posts)
39. Heh...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 05:59 PM
Aug 2015
Sometimes all you want is some civil discourse... sometimes all you get is a "discussion" with a rabid wombat.


I used to work at a place where we described useless discussions (or any other useless activity) as a "wombat"
T'was an acronym that stood for "Waste Of Money, Brains And Time"

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
51. Cor...rect!!!
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:25 AM
Aug 2015

Without Bernie as president, doors will remain closed...The fight will never end, but for democracy to survive, politicians will have to enact the policy proposals Bernie is making...For instance, much work must be done to take control of local and state governments away from corporate masters...demolishing gerrymandering, for instance, will give voters hope that they are actually part of the process...

Progressives are the most thoughtful people, working to make a better world...the list of changes is long, but the work for change must continue...

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
13. It is very early to put a lot of stock in polls
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

but goodgodamn this is sweeet. People Power can still beat cash if we put in the work! Time to Double Down on donations and volunteering!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. It is. On the other hand, NH primary will be some time in January and the period between
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:05 PM
Aug 2015

Thanksgiving and New Year is not politics time. So, I would pay attention in early November and, of course, early January.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
14. Just met with an arborist (tree specialist) & told him about Bernie
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

He'd never heard of him before, but was very interested and asked a number of questions - one of which was "You mean he's running against Hillary?" Me: "Yes". Him: Oh! (BIG SMILE), & wrote down Bernie's name to look him up on the web.

Note to self: Get additional bumper sticker - instead of my present ones which simply say: Bernie Sanders 2016, one that spells out BERNIE SANDERS FOR PRESIDENT 2016.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
20. Look at the message in the composition of that front page. Bernie is
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:53 PM
Aug 2015

left and above, looking over and beyond a perplexed and sad Hillary. (Too bad the bottom banner reports that Trump's support in GOP is eroding. DEMs need him strong, energetic and ripping angry at the GOP convention.)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
25. Shows the power of the media and establishment Republicans.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

I am on the mailing list of a RWer (long story). He was solid for Trump to start with, saying Trump tells the truth, then started saying, "He's going to shoot himself in the foot. We have to back someone else."

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
33. This country will just not elect an avowed socialist and that is too bad.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:40 PM
Aug 2015

He is the best candidate to me but this country is f*ed up.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
34. I don't know if I believe that anymore. It was said that we would never elect a black man, either.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:47 PM
Aug 2015

And then The Shrub served 2 terms, and look what happened=)

It might be more about context (this time, economic) rather than traditional political thinking.

Go, Bernie, Go...for ALL our sakes.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
46. As will I.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:31 PM
Aug 2015

But letting Fate (see :Money) decide who that candidate is going to be, isn't acceptable to me anymore. It's also not conductive to that which calls itself Democracy.

n8dogg83

(248 posts)
63. 'Socialist' isn't the dirty word that it used to be, particularly among young people....
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:59 AM
Aug 2015

who will turn out in huge number for Bernie come election time. For those who still think socialism is bad, you don't have to run away from the label or try to downplay it. Just ask them "don't you like parks and libraries, police and fire departments, public transit, museums, the post office, the military, the VA, the Interstate Highway system, airports, public schools, subsidies for farmers, NASA, NIH, research grants for colleges?" We have a lot of socialism to be proud of in this country.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
45. If that's how you feel, the Bernie Sanders Group might
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:25 PM
Aug 2015

not be the best place for you. This group is for supporters who want him to win. We are determined to do whatever we can to make it happen. If every person who said they liked Bernie voted for him, he'd win in a landslide.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
50. "avowed socialist" seems to be the common talking point of the Sanders Haters.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:20 AM
Aug 2015

Where did that term come from? Has he ever said he was a socialist? He has said he is a Democrtic Socialist. Big Fracking difference.

But the conservatives want to try to smear him wit "avowed socialist". Show me a link.

Predictions of his un-electability come from those that fear change. Too bad, the movement has started.

The class war has two sides. Which side are you on?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
64. If a "socialist" is worse than a "democratic socialist", what's worse than a socialist?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

An "avowed" socialist. I think "avowed" means baptised in blood.

Sanders on the correct side of the class war. How about your candidate?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
36. NYTimes calls it "statistical tie" & not on front page.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:43 PM
Aug 2015

They've either ignored him (and his amazing come-from-behind successes) or subtly denigrated him in an article, so I suspect the fact that it's a Boston Herald poll got their attention.

But I was sad to see that they couldn't even mention it on the front page, not even in the "Politics" list.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/12/bernie-sanders-in-statistical-tie-with-hillary-clinton-in-new-hampshire-poll/

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
65. Nice image of Sanders
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:23 AM
Aug 2015

It accurately portrays him as being out on the campaign trail, and engaging with the voters.

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