Bernie Sanders
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Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)been a major issue in a presidential campaign. And it's about time.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)can somehow Ammend or stack SCOTUS to bail us out of the draconian Billionaire Citizen's United against Non-Billionaires and Free Elections.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)take advantage of that horrendous ruling and still posing a real challenge to the well funded Front Runner, is a slap in the face to those who would buy candidates using that 'law' to do so.
And if he wins, he will have totally wiped out all the claims that they HAVE TO take it, 'or they don't stand a chance'.
All Dem candidates should be joining him in refusing to use that anti-Constitutional legislation, and then USE it against Republicans who would be on the defensive, desperately scrambling to explain away the billions pouring into their party, buying elections and candidates.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)detoxing and not knowing how it would turn out. There are fears/dangers that the money would go to their opponent, thus losing an election.
But if they see Sanders do it...Lord hope he can...then there is an example to work from. The Democratic base will get it way before the Republicans. (especially with Trump who is spending his own money) Bernie is an incredible leader to push this "radical" idea to the forefront. But it's going to take some equally powerful colleagues, I believe, to move it forward at least in the beginning.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)on our system and COMPETE for it, they were certain they had a 'winning' strategy. The DLC was responsible for that 'thinking'.
It is very courageous of Bernie to do this, but the ONLY way to draw attention to the rigged, bought system that is simply not working for the people.
I guess we'll find out who stands with him in this election, of our Dem Reps I mean, and who stands with the Billionaires.
In a way, he has created a real test of who is courageous enough to fight for the people. At the end of this campaign we will have the answer to that question.
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.
Then Bernie will win
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)an issue coalesce into one point and produce a meaningful outcome. And, yes, keep it simple.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... you expect Hillary to run as a REAL populist, WITHOUT the billions??
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)so yes, I do expect her to now prove that this is where she stands, or not expect to be believed.
So far nothing she is DOING is matching what she is SAYING regarding this issue.
Bernie otoh, is consistent as always.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... I do not expect that Bubba will have a great deal of influence on Hillary's decisions. The similarity I do see between them is that Bill campaigned (TWICE!) as a progressive Democrat, but he governed as a moderate Republican (I'd put him just a bit to the right of Eisenhower.)
Similarly, I suspect that Hillary will say whatever "the people" want to hear to get elected. But I do not believe, in my heart of hearts, that what she says in order to gain the office will have much effect on what she actually does in office.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Even though I'm a life long Democrat, the Democratic Party I once knew isn't in charge anymore! IF our very own Party could in some way find it within itself to LISTEN to what more an more of us are saying, and for that matter what people of other Parties are saying, it's what SHOULD happen!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)He admits the "leaders" can't do it themselves. Remember Obama said, you have to make me do it. He's right. Bernie is saying the same thing.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)more support from Democrats than Bernie is. I'm seeing so many Democrats who decided not to run for re-election out stumping for Hillary! Even Tom Harken who I always considered more liberal than many is doing what he can. Then there's Barnie Frank who always talked up his liberal image who has actually said Bernie can't win. Howard Dean is also getting under my skin and I have given him a LOT of credit for his 50-state strategy, but I heard him say he Bernie can't get elected.
So this is why I'm distressed. Clearly THEY can SEE what's happening but they're UNWILLING to jump ship and ruffle the feathers of TPTB of THE PARTY!
So, I guess it's up to us to keep PUSHING BACK or Kick Their Ass! IT IS TIME! There was a time in the past when BIG CHANGES were possible so I'm not willing to give up! IT IS TIME! This country that spreads Democracy ALL OVER THE WORLD had better look in the mirror!
I can't tell you how much I don't want to have to vote for Hillary, but the alternative simply spells more disaster! And WHY is it that Clinton & Bush are on the FRONT cover of TIME! That's a real show stopper and it's been going on for YEARS! Way too scary for me!
for Bernie!
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)staggerleem
(469 posts)... said "make me do it" too!
azmom
(5,208 posts)I didn't understand what he meant. Now it's all so clear to me.
staggerleem
(469 posts)Was it discussed at the Republican debate last week? No!
Are there frequent stories about it on TV news and the major newspapers? No!
Go stand outside a supermarket one day and ask random people what the major issues in the 2016 Presidential Campaign are. I'll be quite surprised if more than 10% say "money in politics and its corrosive effect on government".
Just because an issue is "major" on progressive democratic websites doesn't make it a part of the MSM's "Big Picture". And whether we like it or not, the MSM does, for the most part, determine what's a major issue, nationally, and what's not.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)n/t
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)dougolat
(716 posts)Thank you Occupy
Thank you Bernie
Thank you people
Only the corrupted and the purposefully ignorant can disagree, and they're going to have to face facts.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And don't say you didn't! We aren't that fucking stupid.
PicturingPolitics
(12 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)appalachiablue
(41,147 posts)and in 2013 gutted protections in the 1965 VRA/Voting Rights Act signed by LBJ, that has allowed new restrictions on voting in Red states like TX, FL, NC, WI, PA, etc. to suppress voting of Dem. constituents- blacks, PoC, minorities, immigrants, students, seniors, the poor and others.
The next appointments to the Supreme Court are critical to our country and democracy.
valerief
(53,235 posts)lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)I forget where I read it but I remember an author describing this cycle as what ruins a nation.
lark
(23,123 posts)However I am totally encensed at you sending American jobs to xxx where the pay is a fraction of what people in America make and the Americans lose their jobs. I am pissed that you'd rather have lower sales (Americans who lost jobs can't afford luxuries or ofen even necessities) than the higher sales you would have made had the people still had jobs to buy products. I hate that you drive companies out of business but get millions of dollars for yourselves. I hate that you don't want to pay for my daughters' contraception or provide her maternity coverage yet cover Viagra and lie when you say you are pro-life. You're just damn cheap and despicable in every way that counts on a grand scale.