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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:12 PM Aug 2015

CBS news: Bernie Sanders: What does he stand for?

http://www.cbsnews.com/media/election-2016-bernie-sanders-what-does-he-stand-for/

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Sanders is officially an independent, and he caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate. But he identifies as a Democratic socialist, and as the moniker would suggest, Sanders has planted himself decisively on the left wing of American politics during several decades in public office.
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I only scanned part of this. Hope it isn't a hatchet job.
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CBS news: Bernie Sanders: What does he stand for? (Original Post) LiberalElite Aug 2015 OP
Doesn't seem to be a hit piece JackInGreen Aug 2015 #1
Not a hatchet job - seemed pretty fair and accurate to me. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #2
don't worry, this isn't 1992 HFRN Aug 2015 #3
I will add my standard observation: Wealth inequality is different from income merrily Aug 2015 #4
agree completely. restorefreedom Aug 2015 #9
It's a surprisingly well-written & comprehensive article. senz Aug 2015 #5
Here's my only beef: Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #6
Bernie is strongly protective of the American worker. senz Aug 2015 #7
thx! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #8

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
1. Doesn't seem to be a hit piece
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:18 PM
Aug 2015

That I can tell it's a pretty accurate representation of bernie on the issues. Good press? Bless my soul.

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
3. don't worry, this isn't 1992
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:19 PM
Aug 2015

people don't have the same blind trust in mass media they did back then

Perot tried to expose the same crap Sanders does (insider trade deals/2 party duopoly), and they did a hatchet job on him (not that Perot wasn't without faults)

but people are more astute on media today, and have the internet as a workaround

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. I will add my standard observation: Wealth inequality is different from income
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:26 PM
Aug 2015

inequality.

Bernie speaks of wealth inequality and many other aspects of economic justice. So, in saying Bernie has elevated income inequality above all else, the article is inaccurate. It does not seem to me that mistake was intentional.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
9. agree completely.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:52 PM
Aug 2015

i think many conflate wealth and income inequality, not realizing that they are distinct but closely related issues, and are related to bank regulation, the tax structure, etc which bernie covers all very well.

probably a little incomplete in the article as opposed to intentional swiping.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
5. It's a surprisingly well-written & comprehensive article.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 02:56 AM
Aug 2015

Although the prev/next links don't bring the reader to the top of the next part, and the article seems to end rather abruptly. These are all website problems. But yes, the piece is fair. Might be worth bookmarking.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
6. Here's my only beef:
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:09 PM
Aug 2015

On immigration, Bernie has nothing against "foreign workers" coming into this country. As I understand it, but I could use some enlightenment from those with better info, Bernie is only opposed to legislation which attacks the minimum wage, as some "immigrant visa" legislation proposals have done. Am I correct? The article was rather vague:

It was that concern about foreign laborers, in part, that pushed him to vote against a 2007 reform bill negotiated by Sens. John McCain and Ted Kennedy. But in 2013, he voted for another comprehensive reform bill that passed the Senate that included many of the same provisions.


Am I correct about his position? Here's the only quote they gave Bernie in his own defense:

"But here's where I do have concerns: There is a reason why Wall Street and all of corporate America likes immigration reform, and it is not, in my view, that they're staying up nights worrying about undocumented workers in this country. What I think they are interested in is seeing a process by which we can bring low-wage labor of all levels into this country to depress wages for Americans, and I strongly disagree with that."
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
7. Bernie is strongly protective of the American worker.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:52 PM
Aug 2015

His history in the House and Senate is that of a statesman who takes his particular constituency very seriously. He served the people of VERMONT-- thus his somewhat relaxed position on guns. Now his constituency has broadened to the AMERICAN middle and lower classes. From what I've seen, he has nothing against immigrants, per se, but does not want them to take down American workers.

I did a quick search and didn't find anything definitive, but it appears that he has concerns and expresses them primarly in terms of wages (I saw "jobs" mentioned, but not in a Bernie quote). Here are a couple of pretty good articles:

The Guardian, August 14 -- "Bernie Sanders largely unknown to Latino voters – but has room for growth" The jobs/wages part is toward the end.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/14/bernie-sanders-latino-voters-name-recognition-immigration-healthcare

The NYTimes, July 30 -- "Bernie Sanders Again Links Low Wages With Immigration"
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/30/bernie-sanders-again-links-low-wages-with-immigration/

Maybe you'll come up with something more definitive.

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