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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:32 PM Aug 2015

Nothing to See Here: On Pooh-Poohing Sanders’ Surging Crowds

In Phoenix, Arizona, on July 18, he drew 11,000 people, setting a new record for 2016 presidential candidates. His record continued in Seattle with 15,000 supporters, and then in Portland with 28,000 supporters. In Los Angeles on August 10, Sanders drew about 27,500 supporters, according to the Sanders campaign.

But for Washington Post columnist Philip Bump (8/12/15), those numbers “don’t matter much.”

(snip)
Another Post columnist, Chris Cillizza (8/10/15), also attributes Sanders’ crowds to the cities being majority liberal, writing, “Portland is a known den of progressivism where President Obama drew massive crowds during his 2008 campaign.”

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If Sanders’ rallies, like Obama’s, are signs of a growing movement, why do the Post’s columnists focus their articles on doubting the political potential of that movement and hailing the inevitability of Hillary Clinton?





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longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Cillizza is a lightweight.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:42 PM
Aug 2015

And a bit of a hack. I don't know how he got to where he is. I guess he can write well. Maybe not, though.

The thing is, Bernie is going to red states and cities, and piling up the crowds there, too.

What does the WaPo say about that? <crickets>

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
2. Well...clearly they expect us all to slink back to our known dens of progressiveness!
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015

Oh oh. We aren't doing that.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
3. as soon as they said his civil-rights record didn't matter one bit we could all see they were just
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:14 PM
Aug 2015

gonna ignore reality, and openly

people taking this angle of criticism are building a fact-repelling shell around their discourse, and it'll be very strange when it sprays into real life

roscoeroscoe

(1,370 posts)
4. But now they'll rush to print to make noise about Trump's big crowds.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

I hate that. Sanders has been burning up the campaign and I hope he continues to. He is the real deal, Trump is the pretender. A shame the usual suspects in the media are falling for the illusion.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
6. There's a lot of money riding on Hillary
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:42 PM
Aug 2015

but unless she or her paymasters start buying votes, it's not going to matter.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. I attended Bernie's speech in LA.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:25 PM
Aug 2015

It was held on the USC campus. The campus was quiet. I did not have the impression that the students were there at the time.

The USC campus is located in Southeast Los Angeles.

Sanders probably could have gotten the same number of people turning out, different crowds in several different areas of the city, certainly on the West side and in the Valley and probably out in the East too.

That crowd did not represent all of the Bernie supporters in LA. It represented the supporters who could get there on a Monday night. The East side of Los Angeles has a half-way decent public transportation system. Many, many of us rode on the light rail from the areas of town that it covers. If we hadn't the parking would have been impossible.

LA is not Washington, D.C. or New York. The crowd Bernie drew here was amazing. But it was mostly drawn from a small area of our sprawling city.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. "why do the Post’s columnists focus their articles on,...the inevitability of Hillary Clinton?"....
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:31 PM
Aug 2015

The Beltway has been telling itself that money is the true measure of success.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
12. Because these two fine so called .........................
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

reporters forgot to mention the 100,000 supporters that were in town halls across the country, which I attended in Delaware.

And there employees of Jeff Bezo's, no wonder, and just for good measure, they like to marginalize whenever they write a piece or speak when on TEEEEEE VEEEEEEEEEE about Bernie and hype Clinton.

They want everyone to know that they know who is best for the democrats and they want this show to play to there game of hypocrisy-----------

Well boy's you really are lost in the woods and don't know a tree from the forest do you-----------------

By the way Chris and Philip just maybe you should go on the Bernie web site and see that he has or is hosting a rally in Alabama, you know that liberal bastion

And just for fun boys this is the sticker I have on the back of my car-------------see below

Honk --------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
13. I read a puff piece from the NYT columnist that goes beyond the norms ...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:28 PM
Aug 2015

… same discounting and all about "Despite the bumps, Clinton is on track for the nomination", but never quite got around to stating the logic to that after starting out about "Her favorable ratings have fallen" and the investigation into her private email server is tightening" and, "Bernie Sanders is drawing huge crowds".

Ross Douthat must love Hil, because at the end of this "Still inevitable" seasoned piece, he ends with "Well, save this column: Come the Gore Inaugural, you can make me eat my words.

They must be under some tight deadlines to produce so much that doesn't make sense.

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